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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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lemonyellows · 31/12/2024 18:28

Bah just imagine for 2 families this fantasy has become real today.

fantasticoplastico · 31/12/2024 18:29

I'm away for the new year so I assume they've been knocking at home today with no answer.

leafybrew · 31/12/2024 19:09

RubbishDay · 31/12/2024 09:47

Happy AM day everyone.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Agent Millionaire day is tomorrow??

Happy New Year all

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 31/12/2024 19:16

leafybrew · 31/12/2024 19:09

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Agent Millionaire day is tomorrow??

Happy New Year all

But that’s a bank holiday and AM doesn’t come on a BH.

OonaStubbs · 31/12/2024 19:19

What happens if you're not in? Do they come back?

ConversingWithStrangers · 31/12/2024 19:20

What happens if you're not in? Do they come back?

If I wasn't in at least one neighbour would text me to let me know some unknown person was at my house.

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 31/12/2024 19:22

OonaStubbs · 31/12/2024 19:19

What happens if you're not in? Do they come back?

I read an interview with someone who had had ‘a visit’. He said there had been an email before asking what time he got home from work.

OonaStubbs · 31/12/2024 19:22

Does the prize come up on the website - app etc in the normal way if they haven't been able to reach you in person by then?

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 31/12/2024 19:25

Lots of answers to AM questions and others here.

moneyweek.com/personal-finance/savings/premium-bonds-agent-million

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 21:00

I'm a little confused. If the January draw doesn't take place until the 2nd, how can AM visit the two millionaires today? Surely they wouldn't have won anything for another two days?

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/12/2024 21:12

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 13:00

Thanks for the article @IDareSay . I particularly liked this bit:
Winners have an average holding of £23,345, but 12 people with £1,000 and under in bonds have scooped the jackpot since 1994.
That was up to date a year ago when the article was written. As @Blondeshavemorefun keeps reassuring us, there is indeed hope for those of us on less, and far less, than FH. 🤞

That's interesting about how many winners on less then £1k

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Blondeshavemorefun · 31/12/2024 21:13

OonaStubbs · 31/12/2024 19:22

Does the prize come up on the website - app etc in the normal way if they haven't been able to reach you in person by then?

I assume so

Imagine if away and you click on the cream app and you get a carrot lady saying you have won a million

🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀

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BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 21:16

RubbishDay · 31/12/2024 15:14

I think I have read afternoon/early evening but given NYE I am now resigned to it not being me.

In the article posted by IDareSay, AM describes being out at the same time as Trick or Treaters and the house being in darkness, so I assumed it was after dark. That would be after about 5pm at the end of October and with Trick or Treaters out and about until mid-evening. If as a pp says, AM emails and will visit after the winner gets home from work, then it could theoretically be even later than that.

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/12/2024 21:16

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 21:00

I'm a little confused. If the January draw doesn't take place until the 2nd, how can AM visit the two millionaires today? Surely they wouldn't have won anything for another two days?

The draw is actually at the end of he previous month but we find out the next month at the beginning

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Blondeshavemorefun · 31/12/2024 21:18

Thanks for this @IDareSay

Very interesting

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-11596139/Meet-Agent-Million-woman-tells-Premium-Bond-holders-theyve-won-jackpot.html

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sandrapinchedmysandwich · 31/12/2024 21:21

I am sure I read a case study ages ago where a man found out he had won the big one on New Year's Day when he was severely hungover. Fingers crossed it's tomorrow

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 21:28

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 31/12/2024 19:22

I read an interview with someone who had had ‘a visit’. He said there had been an email before asking what time he got home from work.

I've only just checked my emails for today. Alas only companies wanting me to spend money with them and nobody wanting to enquire about my whereabouts to give me lots of money!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 21:35

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 31/12/2024 21:21

I am sure I read a case study ages ago where a man found out he had won the big one on New Year's Day when he was severely hungover. Fingers crossed it's tomorrow

The general consensus is that AM doesn't visit on a Bank Holiday.

mumda · 31/12/2024 21:56

Unless they ring via lavender cool phone number pretending to be three network then I've not had any unexpected calls today.

PremiumPrizesPlease · 31/12/2024 22:36

I blame myself for not having a fully stocked cheese fridge AngryGrin

mauvish · 31/12/2024 23:30

In no particular order, I currently have

Cheddar
Stilton
Red Leicester
Brie (baron bigod)
Parmesan
Philly
Halloumi
Paneer (albeit in a curry in the freezer)

But no visit from anyone bearing good tidings.

Is it because the Philly is low fat?

happytobemrsg · 01/01/2025 00:45

We only have grated cheddar 🤦🏻‍♀️ clearly this was never going to be our month.

JellyBeanFactory · 01/01/2025 01:43

Bugger. Cake is away. Bailey's is finished. Cheese has all gone. He/she has not visited.

Hmph.

PremiumPrizesPlease · 01/01/2025 01:59
Tom Cruise GIF by Jerology

I got an email earlier and felt a sudden twinge of enthusiasm. I worked my way through the security only to see a confirmation that my 13k had been received. Bugger that. Show me the money!

poostinkywink · 01/01/2025 09:44

Morning! Happy New Year!

Please can someone tell me where I can find the high value winners list? Hang on - is it today or tomorrow that it’s published? I always lose track of time this time of year 🤦‍♀️

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