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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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paranoidnamechanger · 30/12/2024 22:26

Bimblesalong · 30/12/2024 22:21

@paranoidnamechanger the high value prizes list is published a day before all of the prizes are released on the cream app. Hoping for a spot on the high value list for loads of us on this thread!🪡

Yes that seems obvious now you’ve pointed that out - that what that article means by results publication day is the day the HVW list is published.

Wishing everyone the best of luck 🍀

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/12/2024 22:29

Yes results means via the link I put up so thur

I put this up the other week

AM Tue 31 dec
list thur 2nd jan
App Fri 3 jan

So tomorrow AM is going to visit 2 people

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EmotionalSupportPotato · 30/12/2024 22:30

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/12/2024 22:29

Yes results means via the link I put up so thur

I put this up the other week

AM Tue 31 dec
list thur 2nd jan
App Fri 3 jan

So tomorrow AM is going to visit 2 people

Ooooh

I'm in all day

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/12/2024 22:31

2025 list

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
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MyrtleStrumpet · 30/12/2024 22:35

I put £5,000 into PB on the 2 December which was silly. I wish I'd known about the whole month thing as I'd have invested in late November.

So I am eligible for the February draw. I'm quite excited for prizes, but I'm aware it will average about £175 over a year.

user9086572 · 31/12/2024 07:16

MyrtleStrumpet · 30/12/2024 22:35

I put £5,000 into PB on the 2 December which was silly. I wish I'd known about the whole month thing as I'd have invested in late November.

So I am eligible for the February draw. I'm quite excited for prizes, but I'm aware it will average about £175 over a year.

Well it wasn’t silly, just not optimal. With £5000 you’ll have missed out of a couple of quids interest where it was previously, that’s all

EmotionalSupportPotato · 31/12/2024 08:13

MyrtleStrumpet · 30/12/2024 22:35

I put £5,000 into PB on the 2 December which was silly. I wish I'd known about the whole month thing as I'd have invested in late November.

So I am eligible for the February draw. I'm quite excited for prizes, but I'm aware it will average about £175 over a year.

That's if you're lucky

Humphreyshead · 31/12/2024 09:09

I’ve decided to open up PB and add £500 to it each month instead of paying off my 0% credit card. Once I’ve raised the sufficient funds (in approx 3 months) I’ll pay the CC off with that money, but hope I’ve gained a little too.

RubbishDay · 31/12/2024 09:47

Happy AM day everyone.

KohlaParasaurus · 31/12/2024 10:04

The weather here is so bad that if Agent Million is asked to travel to my house, he/she is likely to ask ERNIE to throw my number back and draw again.

Good luck everyone!

ConversingWithStrangers · 31/12/2024 10:23

Do they actually knock on your door?

(I’d love to know all the details of winning a large prize on things like ERNIE or the Lottery).

mauvish · 31/12/2024 10:47

It's different with the lottery though, as no-one keeps track of who bought the winning ticket/s and it's up to the winner actively to claim their prize.

PremiumPrizesPlease · 31/12/2024 11:28

I love that article! Thank you for sharing it!

What happens if you're out when they call?! A lot of people are probably travelling over this Christmas period.

JellyBeanFactory · 31/12/2024 12:10

I'm home. Waiting for AM to knock/ring, he or she can present themselves in anyway they like to be honest. Kettles on, cake is on the side - we're just waiting.

Bimblesalong · 31/12/2024 12:16

Back from chemo and home with a big plate of cheese to help to tempt AM in.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 12:41

KohlaParasaurus · 31/12/2024 10:04

The weather here is so bad that if Agent Million is asked to travel to my house, he/she is likely to ask ERNIE to throw my number back and draw again.

Good luck everyone!

Yes, come to our house instead AM as the weather isn't too bad here. Or at least it isn't yet, so better be quick. Fear not, I will send you some @KohlaParasaurus if we get your million because of adverse weather.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 12:47

Your big plate of cheese would tempt most of us in, @Bimblesalong , so hopefully it will work on AM for you, who'll be with you very shortly like the Bisto Kid.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 12:53

mauvish · 31/12/2024 10:47

It's different with the lottery though, as no-one keeps track of who bought the winning ticket/s and it's up to the winner actively to claim their prize.

You get an email whenever you win something if you have bought your ticket online through your registered online National Lottery website account. It's more likely to be a win of £30 or less though, or a free Lucky Dip ticket, than millions!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 13:00

Thanks for the article @IDareSay . I particularly liked this bit:
Winners have an average holding of £23,345, but 12 people with £1,000 and under in bonds have scooped the jackpot since 1994.
That was up to date a year ago when the article was written. As @Blondeshavemorefun keeps reassuring us, there is indeed hope for those of us on less, and far less, than FH. 🤞

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 31/12/2024 13:14

Perhaps that should have been like Wallace and Gromit instead, @Bimblesalong !

Bimblesalong · 31/12/2024 14:07

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals cracking!

lemonyellows · 31/12/2024 15:06

So is it too late for AM, do you think? Or is there still hope?! 😜

RubbishDay · 31/12/2024 15:14

lemonyellows · 31/12/2024 15:06

So is it too late for AM, do you think? Or is there still hope?! 😜

I think I have read afternoon/early evening but given NYE I am now resigned to it not being me.

happytobemrsg · 31/12/2024 16:19

I think AM has lost my address 🤷🏻‍♀️

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