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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2024 19:05

Wouldn't they be an amazing end to the year

To find out A millionaire

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Sleighmum · 21/12/2024 12:49

Hello! I have just come across this thread after doing some research on what to do with a large(ish) windfall.

Myself and DH have more than the maximum holding to enter between us. Would you recommend putting the maximum in one and then the rest in another? (Still over 50% holding) or would you split it equally between the two?

And just to confirm from what I’ve been reading, the best day to enter is the day before the last day of the month? E.g 30th December?

paranoidnamechanger · 21/12/2024 13:02

@Sleighmum I think you should have one account with the maximum, at least for a while as an experiment, because the more bonds you have the more chance of winning.

Also - buying bonds on the last day of the month is fine. Lots of us have done it and reported that they’re eligible for the month
after next.

BigmonkeyLittlemonkeyGiantmonkey · 21/12/2024 19:16

Just wondering if anyone on here has ever won a large amount of? I suppose I mean 100k or more?
I read the threads but haven't noticed a life changing amount yet?

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 19:36

Someone won £50k

A few have won £5/10k

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JollyHostess101 · 21/12/2024 19:39

@Sleighmum I'd max out one account as well that's what we're going to do once we've sorted out DHs account!!

paranoidnamechanger · 21/12/2024 19:42

Someone won £25K last summer.

recklessgran · 21/12/2024 22:08

DH won 10K in May - pretty sure there's been a few largish winners on here.

SundayDread · 21/12/2024 22:33

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 19:36

Someone won £50k

A few have won £5/10k

That was me!

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 23:23

Ans what did you do with it @SundayDread ?

Holiday - car - house stuff - save

Or something else

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Cowhen · 22/12/2024 14:45

Sleighmum · 21/12/2024 12:49

Hello! I have just come across this thread after doing some research on what to do with a large(ish) windfall.

Myself and DH have more than the maximum holding to enter between us. Would you recommend putting the maximum in one and then the rest in another? (Still over 50% holding) or would you split it equally between the two?

And just to confirm from what I’ve been reading, the best day to enter is the day before the last day of the month? E.g 30th December?

As far as luck, it literally doesn't matter who is holding the bonds and how big the 'chunk' is. The machine draws the numbers at random. You will have the same number of bonds no matter how they are split.

However; if you plan to reinvest the winning as PBs, you're better off splitting evenly. If you win in an account that is not full holdings and you have selected to reinvest, it will buy new bonds with the winnings. The new bonds will be eligible for the next month's draw. If one account is maxed out, they would pay the winnings into a different account, and if you used that money to buy new bonds, they would have to wait a month before being eligible (so you would miss one draw compared to the auto-reinvest).

Blondeshavemorefun · 22/12/2024 21:27

@Cowhen good point

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JollyHostess101 · 23/12/2024 00:15

@Cowhen thanks for this we weren't going reinvest DH's account but you've reminded me that they'll be eligible quicker!!

MidnightMusing5 · 26/12/2024 08:41

Place marking

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/12/2024 08:44

@Blondeshavemorefun funnily enough, I just read yesterday that in september, someone won 25k with a 1pound holding! That 1 pound stake was purchased in April 1960!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoever purchased that could be very old now if they are even still alive!!

Bimblesalong · 26/12/2024 09:30

@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld its brilliant to read of these small stakes winning big. I had a £1 bond bought as a baby gift for me when I was born in the 60s. Hopefully the owner of the 1960s bond kept up with changes of address and as not yet at retirement age, the money would have provided such a treat or reassuring financial cushion.

Enterthedragonqueen · 26/12/2024 10:24

I've only ever won £25 with £250 worth of pb 5 yrs ago. I know have £4k in premium bonds and not won a bean since.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/12/2024 12:10

@Blondeshavemorefun my son and late daughter have won 25 to 50 frequently over the years and always share the winnings. my late daughter has won 50 this month and last year but we have still not managed to claim because apparently they change the number when kids reach 16!! we need to try to get the winnings into her daughters name.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/12/2024 12:12

@Bimblesalong the winner lived in staffordshire! is it you??? lol

FishPie2 · 26/12/2024 12:42

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/12/2024 12:10

@Blondeshavemorefun my son and late daughter have won 25 to 50 frequently over the years and always share the winnings. my late daughter has won 50 this month and last year but we have still not managed to claim because apparently they change the number when kids reach 16!! we need to try to get the winnings into her daughters name.

I have read that you have just a year to transfer the bonds when someone dies as this is something I have to do.

Bimblesalong · 26/12/2024 13:12

@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld I wish!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/12/2024 15:44

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/12/2024 08:44

@Blondeshavemorefun funnily enough, I just read yesterday that in september, someone won 25k with a 1pound holding! That 1 pound stake was purchased in April 1960!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoever purchased that could be very old now if they are even still alive!!

If the bond was bought for them as a baby, they would be only 64 now, so potentially not very old at all and more than likely extremely alive and kicking. Let's hope they are enjoying their win, whatever their age.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/12/2024 15:51

Not long now folks. Only a week to the full results.

paranoidnamechanger · 26/12/2024 15:55

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/12/2024 15:51

Not long now folks. Only a week to the full results.

Well, eight days to be exact.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/12/2024 16:26

Ah. I'd got the 7 days from the NS&I website.

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