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What is fair financially in my situation as a SAHM?

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Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 14:59

Hi all,
I'd really appreciate any opinions on this, as I feel myself and my DH have a slightly complex financial situation, and I have found myself feeling resentful recently, but I'm not sure if this is reasonable or not.
We have been married a few years now and very happy generally. Our DS was born last year and DH is a really good dad, but he's been struggling financially for quite some time now and I am starting to feel fed up with it. I'm of the opinion that we stick together through thick and thin, but I'm feeling resentful.
Between us we have assets. I have a flat and he has two houses. His houses have always given him problems, and I did say we should sell them, but he didn't.
When DS was born, we left my flat we were living in and moved in with my parents. This was a short-term plan. We assumed we would sell all our properties and buy a family home, but as we were unable to sell anything, we have ended up buying a property which needs a lot of work, and we won't be able to move in for a good while. I remortgaged my property to allow us to buy and I pay the mortgage out of the rent I get (I make a small profit from this per month). His houses have been costing a fortune, as the mortgages came up last year for renewal and the interest rates and service charges have meant that he pays around 3k for them every month, despite the fact they're rented out. He's self employed, and has been struggling to make ends meet due to paying the rent on his business premises and paying our mortgage on our new house on top of this. My husband has no savings and I do, so I leant him 20k to help him out. I know he hated accepting it, and is working on paying it back when he can.
I had to leave my job when we had DS, as we relocated, and I'm very lucky that I get a small salary from my father's company for the occasional bit of admin I do. As we live with my parents, we pay for all the food for the household, rather than pay rent. I offered to cover this, as my husband has been struggling so much. Generally I'm also really struggling to stretch what little money I have. I get around £1000 per month in total, and have to pay for all our household food, drink and everything my DS needs, from nappies to clothes, activities and toys etc. not to mention the occasional expense of a birthday or having a haircut. I never buy anything for myself or do anything extravagant. I have no money left at the end of the month, and I am becoming sick of having to be so frugal and stressing about it all the time. We do not have a joint account, so I feel that day to day for me and DS, it's all on me. I know my husband pays for our new mortgage and our car (we share it), but I feel generally let down and sad that we're in this position. Is this unreasonable?
My own dad is a fantastic provider and I've never felt financially insecure until now, but my husband, although a generous person, simply seems to have so many outgoings that he's drowning, and it makes me feel very insecure. I intend to go back to work in a new job when DS starts nursery next year, but at the moment, I don't see the point, as my income would only end up paying for childcare. I am not the sort of person who expects to have everything paid for, but I resent my husband for putting us in this situation, despite the fact it's not his fault, and I don't know how to stop feeling like this. Most women who are looking after a child full-time get at least some sort of housekeeping money from their husband's to help. Am I a terrible person for feeling resentful?

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HousefulofIkea · 20/11/2024 16:56

Sorry to break it to you OP but i think your husband is pulling the wool over his eyes. I dont think he actually wants to sell the properties because he likes retaining those as an asset just for himself. I suspect also things aren't as financially tight as he's telling you he just isn't sharing his money with you. If the properties are rented theres no way its costing him an extra £3k every month on top of any rental income, i think that's what he's telling you because he wants to keep more money for himself.
Either this or hes actually working very little/earning very little in his day today employment but claiming to you hes busy/working hard.
Somethimg doesnt add up

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 16:58

@WhiteLily1 yes, we are both struggling as I said. I was only breaking it down for people so they knew the background. Of course the assets and debt are shared. I share his stress every day. I gave him 20k and told him that it's our money anyway , not just mine. The point I was making was that I feel resentful because I pay for everything for our child and his bad decisions regarding his properties have caused the biggest strain.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 16:59

What would you be bringing in if you went back to work? Remembering you'd get childcare support from government when child turns 2?

Quitelikeit · 20/11/2024 17:03

I think you should cut him some slack

He is paying the mortgage on three properties

Why on earth did you buy a property that is uninhabitable? I bet you had a hand in that? Or was it his decision alone?

He is also trying to run his own business

You are sat at home with your child whilst complaining you have no money! Get off your butt and go to work - part time? In the evening? Or on a weekend when childcare is free

You have not said how much extra he has to pay on the two houses - so they are rented out but that doesn’t cover the two mortgages?

Honestly you are the solution to your own problem

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:06

@Quitelikeit You mean it isn't a "man's responsibility" to be the sole financial provider?

Coconutter24 · 20/11/2024 17:08

You get around £1000 a month and spend it on daily expenses, your DH pays your new mortgage and the car. How much does that come to a month? Does he have money left over at the end of the month?

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:10

@Quitelikeit I do work some evenings already doing admin, as I said. I could work full time but we would only get 15 hours childcare funded, the rest we'd have to pay. I am working on a side hustle too but that takes a bit of time.
We bought a property that needed work, as it was the best we could afford. It will be habitable soon. I will cut him some slack. As I said, I'm not sure if I'm being reasonable or not, so perhaps I'm not.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:11

@Dibdabdeb From September 2025, support will reach 30 hours for eligible working parents with a child from 9-months-old up to school age.
15 hours from 9 months I think currently?

Quitelikeit · 20/11/2024 17:11

@Youthiswastedontheyoung

meaning what? Have I offended you

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:11

@Coconutter24 about 2k. No, he doesn't have anything left.

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Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:13

@Youthiswastedontheyoung around 30k now as we have moved out of London ,so I would earn less than before.

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Quitelikeit · 20/11/2024 17:14

The worrying thing is how on earth are you going to afford running your new home once you move in?

Something will have to give that is for sure!

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:14

@Youthiswastedontheyoung yes it has. Our DS is 18 months old currently though

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:14

30k is a decent wage. Better than nothing, surely?

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:15

@Quitelikeit we are still hoping to sell properties in the new year

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:17

@Quitelikeit Well according to many on MN, "feminism" means women can choose whether to work or not regardless of finances as it is the man's duty to provide.

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:20

I'm not saying it's a man's duty to provide but I am providing full time childcare while I'm 'sitting on my arse not working '. Something we both feel is beneficial to our son. I have saved us a fortune in childcare.

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kiraric · 20/11/2024 17:23

I think both of you have made some poor decisions here, sorry for being blunt but you really shouldn't have had a child before sorting out your housing situation and finances.

In summary - and you need to own that you made these decisions too: you had a child and decided to be a SAHM without sufficient income to meet your obligations.

It's totally reasonable to be unhappy about that but it's not reasonable to put all the blame on your DH.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:23

@Dibdabdeb I understand that, absolutely. But you can go back to work now? I'm not saying ft, but at least some of the time?

Quitelikeit · 20/11/2024 17:26

@Youthiswastedontheyoung

I don’t care about feminism or have firm beliefs on who should be doing what

I don’t post on the feminist boards either

PurpleThistle7 · 20/11/2024 17:30

This whole situation is insane. Cut your losses and stop throwing good money after bad. You made poor financial decisions now get out from them. Give notice now and get those houses gone. Until you make more money each month then you've spent you'll never get anywhere and that's impossible. Unless you're saying you'd owe money on the houses if you sell? That happened to a friend of mine...

And definitely go back to work. Staying at home is a luxury and you can't afford it. Childcare won't cost £30000 a year. Or work opposite hours to your husband and get an overnight job or weekend work or whatever. This is a huge mess for both of you and you'll both need to make drastic changes to fix it

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:31

Thanks @kiraric . We would have waited longer but I was 40yrs old. Not too much time to play with. It's also a slight gift of high in sight, as we never imagined in wildest dreams that we wouldn't be able to sell anything. I appreciate your thoughts though

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 20/11/2024 17:32

@Quitelikeit Absolutely fair enough. It is my personal belief that both men and women are equally capable of working. Just my own opinion.

Westofeasttoday · 20/11/2024 17:33

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 16:52

Yes @Bankholidayhelp thank you for your comment. I think that the lack of sharing and arranging our finances so we can pool our money more is what's bothering me. He said that the reason he didn't want to pool our money is because his finances are currently such a mess, he doesn't want it affecting me any more than it already does.
I have subbed him and it doesn't necessarily bother me, as we're married and I know he'd do the same for me if it was the other way around. I don't doubt he'll reimburse me. He is self employed and earns good money. I'm not sure how much exactly, as it fluctuates greatly, but I know roughly, but it is just going straight out as soon as it comes in. I wanted him to sell the houses a few years ago when the market was much more buoyant in that area, but he didn't. This also frustrated me.
I'm working on a side hustle, and so is he, but it is taking a little time to set his up and I'm busy with our 18 month old, so mine is a work in progress. I really appreciate your constructive answer.

Okay so a few thoughts from me:

  1. So yeah it’s 2024 not 1950. Your money is his money and vice versa. All of your post is mine and his rather than ours. Subbing your husband? Give over.
  2. You don’t seem to want to tackle this problem and are working against each other rather than together.
  3. It’s kinda insulting to read about your dad being a good provider and you are disappointed your husband isn’t. Again it’s 2024 not 1959. If you want to help the situation it isn’t all on your husband to do this - do this together.
  4. As my mother always said never depend on a man for anything. We are both happily married but I don’t solely put that frankly unrealistic expectation on my husband to shoulder this alone.
  5. You have FOUR properties. Has it occurred to you to move into one of the houses since you are paying for it anyway. Why on earth would you buy another property while you were staying at home with baby and your properties were struggling.
  6. See a financial advisor asap. I’m not sure either if you understands assets and finances and they might be able to help you. Pool you money now (since legally it’s both yours as you are married). Why is there such a desire to keep everything separate?
  7. Stop blaming your husband for this situation - this is a joint responsibility. So easy to blame someone else for your problems. They are your problems too.

Overall if you are paying more for houses than you are getting then sell them to pay the remaining mortgage and get out. Forget about making money at this point. You have clearly overstretched yourself and what I can’t figure out is what bank on earth keeps lending you this money? Given everything people repeatedly say about London and the housing market what you say about your London flat makes no sense.

Communication, shared responsibility and strong decisions are needed.

kiraric · 20/11/2024 17:33

Dibdabdeb · 20/11/2024 17:31

Thanks @kiraric . We would have waited longer but I was 40yrs old. Not too much time to play with. It's also a slight gift of high in sight, as we never imagined in wildest dreams that we wouldn't be able to sell anything. I appreciate your thoughts though

I was more suggesting that you could have sorted the finances earlier rather than wait to have the baby if you see what I mean.

This was always risky but you took that risk too, it wasn't all his decision.