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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/09/2024 19:34

*them

YouOKHun · 21/09/2024 19:37

@BSintolerant Grin. Uber and 2Jags are currently in Venice about to hop on board a Venice Destroyer. Yawn can't go because Uber (toxic former friend) will make her walk the plank. It's also risky as it's very very easy to get lost in Venice and Yawn can't afford another problem getting home.

spanfan · 21/09/2024 19:51

She says she also has a trip to Rotherham 🤣🤣🤣

Spongebobette · 21/09/2024 19:59

Meanwhile Castle is churning through launch after launch of masterclass and accelerator programmes etc etc

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10weekcountdown · 21/09/2024 20:08

I’ve been following the bot watch threads for a couple of years. One thing I haven’t worked out is who is yawns upline. I’m guessing bloodsucker is her ultimate boss, but what about uber? Are they the same level? What about 2 jags? And who is the lady on the Venice cruise who has a surname that sounds very similar to a yellow fruit ( often added to bread)? She seems quite high up.

Spongebobette · 21/09/2024 20:11

She’s being totally honest, she claims, but doesn’t actually admit she’s never had a coaching client, whether for self love or her ‘nichè’ IVF (which only recently was DEFINITELY the area she was destined to specialise in and she was just about to announce some special offers

It’s sad to read that she’s been persuaded that the answer is to spend more money on coaching courses - these ‘fellow coaches’ really have their hooks into her haven’t they.

She now has an actual nursing role that she seems to think is perfect for her - it would be so much better for her future if she could focus on that

but once again it’s all about her ‘journey’ and LoA and manifestation

this all started with the brainwashing she received in an MLM and the cold reality of her total lack of success in her ‘business’ just doesn’t break through her forcefield

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Angrymum22 · 21/09/2024 20:38

Yawn states that social media is vital for business. I would strongly disagree, my reputation in business is the result of hard work and excellent people skills. I have never had to advertise, and I have never been short of work.
I know many small businesses that rely solely on recommendation. They may have a basic SM presence but almost all their work is the result of transparent, professional work.
In fact the guy who did our windows last year asks you not to refer people without asking him first. Our central heating engineer doesn’t need to advertise and our kitchen was supplied and fitted by a local company known as Recommended Kitchens. Their quality of workmanship keeps their businesses profitable.
I would avoid any business that has an over zealous SM presence. It rings alarm bells every time. If they are spending hours on documenting their work they obviously have too much time on their hands.

Spongebobette · 21/09/2024 21:34

Couldn’t agree more! But if all you are selling is woo, all you have is social media presence really as there’s no actual product

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YouOKHun · 21/09/2024 22:25

Castle in a stealth boasting post featuring her new Rangey picked up today:

"Took my Dad for a spin in my new wheels...let's just say he always finds a negative...he says give it a week and it will be in the garage you know what they say about these cars..."

Perhaps the big negative for him is that he has to pay for it all and deal with it when it goes wrong or needs filling with fuel. All this while Castle swans around trying to give the impression it's worth paying her for coaching. The only tips she can give are how to ponce off parents in your forties. What a shame that people believe these are the symbols of HER success and that they can have them too if they pay her.

YouOKHun · 21/09/2024 23:32

Social media is vital for her narcissistic supply.

The Unlucky club is based, apparently, on all the wisdom Yawn has gained from:

running two successful businesses - eh? When was that?

raising two children - who have very carefully and sensibly distanced themselves from all the botting probably having suffered some pushback over the years. Other people have raised children, this doesn’t actually set her apart or mean she has anything to tell anyone else.

Still being married. My parents were married for nearly 60 years. Neither put it on their CV. I asked my mother what the secret was and she said, ‘a massive dose of luck to be honest’. Again, what does she want? A medal?

losing 6.5st, again, she’s not the only person on the planet to do this, neither is there a negative correlation between weight going down and human value going up. What exactly can she do with this? Patronise others and give them unqualified health and exercise advice whilst concealing the truth about her weight loss journey.

quitting alcohol: that reminds me, spent the evening with some medics in the pub (of all places) discussing the noticeable effect Ozempic has had on the desire for alcohol among patients. Again, it’s not clear what’s on offer from Yawn. She isn’t the first to cut out alcohol. What wisdom is on offer?

Battling hateful and jealous online trolls: well you may jump up and down but perhaps if you were able to answer questions and engage politely with critics it would be more useful. People who say things you don’t like are not envious of you. Calling people who rightly question you “cunts” is not battling anything, it’s just a public display of losing your shit quickly when putting a foot outside your echo chamber. There is nothing useful here for your coachees except a nice big red flag about what they can expect if they decide to question you too.

Cutting out toxic false friends. Cutting out other bots and people who don’t fall into line and replacing them with people who have yet to suss you out is not cleansing yourself of toxic people. If there are so many toxic people around you perhaps there is a source of this toxicity? How will this benefit your coachees? Because it sounds very much like the instruction you will be giving will be to distance themselves from family and friends who question what they are doing. This isn’t coaching, it’s gaslighting. It’s pure MLM.

Embarking on the perimenopause - this has been done before.

Smashing it on social media without paying a penny - remind me, how much was the photoshoot? The level of engagement as a result of this ‘smashing it’ is not going make a difference.

She thinks this list will form the basis of her coaching and will guide others, how very arrogant. This business is REALLY about making enough noise to distract from the fact Success has Expired and extra shouty this weekend to distract from the fact she’s not on the cruise and she’s not bovvered. It’s all about sticking two fingers up to Uber et al and of course shoring up her delicate ego. That’s not a business.

If some poor misguided soul was to ask for a recommendation for a local aloe vera peddlar as per the small business model she wouldn’t get that gig either.

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 07:24

That list of achievements sounds like something resulting from an exercise with her ‘coach’

write down all the things you are proud of! Wow, aren’t you brilliant!

but in reality none of those things is all that unusual

also, this new business is all ME ME ME aren’t you lucky to have access to ME!!! Don’t you want to be ME?!! Look at MY achievements!

its a cruel world outside the MLM bubble

os she still coaching all her teamies for free in FL? How does that work with her pay for access business? Does she hope to recruit people from her paying coachees? If so will they still have to pay her 22 quid a month?

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Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 08:59

Spongebobette · 21/09/2024 20:11

She’s being totally honest, she claims, but doesn’t actually admit she’s never had a coaching client, whether for self love or her ‘nichè’ IVF (which only recently was DEFINITELY the area she was destined to specialise in and she was just about to announce some special offers

It’s sad to read that she’s been persuaded that the answer is to spend more money on coaching courses - these ‘fellow coaches’ really have their hooks into her haven’t they.

She now has an actual nursing role that she seems to think is perfect for her - it would be so much better for her future if she could focus on that

but once again it’s all about her ‘journey’ and LoA and manifestation

this all started with the brainwashing she received in an MLM and the cold reality of her total lack of success in her ‘business’ just doesn’t break through her forcefield

She actually believed that by paying more to do more courses she’ll find her nichè

buf it’s clear from her latest posts that what she really likes is to be ‘busy’ with doing online courses and the actual business itself that should be the outcome is too hard and too much pressure.

so she’ll continue to claim she’s planning a business at some non specified time in the future which is always just beyond the horizon and will continue to part with money and fill up notebooks with coloured pens and highlighters

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ticktock19 · 22/09/2024 11:04

Yawn has just announced that it's only the founding members that will get the bargain price of £22 for unlucky girl academy, the actual price of this woo nonsense is going to to be £44 a month 😂😂😂

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 12:00

Hilarious

when they sign up, how many months do they commit to and how easy is it to cancel?

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DeliaDeetz · 22/09/2024 12:11

44 quid a month to listen to Yawn talking about herself and how fabulous her life is! Great.....😂😂😂
She's saying it's completely separate from FL but apparently her weightloss is down to their products so how is she gonna talk about that without mentioning FL.
Pretty sure she will not be discouraging members of the woo crew from buying any products.

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 12:26

Oh she’ll be recommending all the products, no doubt about that - she’ll see this as part of her retailing
and if some members become FBOs (if they aren’t already - how is she reaching people outside the FL bubble???) - it’s a bonus

how FLHQ and other top bots feel about her doing this is something I’d like to know. Most top bots provide free training which includes health and wellness stuff so their downlines can use it to sell and recruit

and how she’ll stop members from ripping her content (which is all ripped from elsewhere anyway so I can’t see how she can claim it’s her IP, apart from her ‘personal journey’ tales) - another question I’d like answered

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Contraryjane · 22/09/2024 13:04

I’ve looked at the FB group she’s set up for Unlucky Girl. Rules of the group, no promotion of business 🤣🤣.
She also uses the badass word again. It’s totally out of place. She needs to look up the meaning.

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 16:39

Meaning don’t join my group and try to recruit to Arbonne etc 😂😂😂😂

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YouOKHun · 22/09/2024 17:21

Perhaps for now Bloodsucker or Scamolopoulos have told Yawn to emphasise that FLP has nothing to do with the Unlucky Girl Club? I imagine they will be keeping an eye on it. No doubt sign ups (if there are any) are bots or potential bots as no one knows Yawn exists outside the bots sphere.

Does she think that saying 'be quick or I'll charge you £44' is going to create a stampede? More likely someone debating paying £22 and not fully signed up will see £44 and decide against it altogether. What planet is Yawn on?

SnoogyWoo · 22/09/2024 17:51

Chief Executive Officer of unlucky girl academy 🤣 why do losers always want to give themselves grandiose titles.

AbbeyGrange · 22/09/2024 18:14

£44 a month? That's roughly the same as my Sky subscription, bloody hell, who in their right mind would pay that? Yawn rates herself doesn't she!

AbbeyGrange · 22/09/2024 18:17

SnoogyWoo · 22/09/2024 17:51

Chief Executive Officer of unlucky girl academy 🤣 why do losers always want to give themselves grandiose titles.

It makes them feel important..

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 18:56

Yawn claims to be able to advise on pretty much anything, including marriage issues, business, dealing with bullies …

the mixture of arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking

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PieonaBarm · 22/09/2024 19:05

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 18:56

Yawn claims to be able to advise on pretty much anything, including marriage issues, business, dealing with bullies …

the mixture of arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking

And trauma, treading rocky ground there Yawn, untold damage could be done.

YouOKHun · 22/09/2024 19:52

Spongebobette · 22/09/2024 18:56

Yawn claims to be able to advise on pretty much anything, including marriage issues, business, dealing with bullies …

the mixture of arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking

A mix of arrogance and ignorance is absolutely right @Spongebobette. It demonstrates what a low opinion she has of her audience, to position her parochial and self absorbed life experience as a blueprint for a better life for them.

It's laughable but like everything Yawn does, once you've finished sniggering at the ridiculousness you're left with an uncomfortable sense of the damage someone as self-serving as her will do if she is advising people to alter there lives to be more like her's. Especially when what she presents is not authentic. I can see her closed group Lives producing a few like Nurse, caught in a complete fog of magical thinking. Of course, it's likely it will never get off the ground but for anyone who does sign up, they will have signed up to pay to be bullied and lied to.

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