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Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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YouOKHun · 23/05/2024 19:09

New Fred

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PieonaBarm · 27/05/2024 17:18

I thought wig and sleaze lived in Dubai now, but they're saying they live in Portugal. I wish the international jet setters would decide, us plebs just don't know where we should be living

YouOKHun · 27/05/2024 17:19

The same as goes through her head the rest of the time, “me, me, me” I should think @Butterflyfluff!

It’s what happens when you are a big fish in a tiny pond and have created an echo chamber where you only listen to those who will shore up your fragile ego, either by always being “positive” about everything you say or do or by allowing themselves to be subtly or not so subtly done down by Yawn (ref pics of Scotbot taken by Yawn). Mr Yawn is only Mr Yawn because he never says no.

Now Yawn has been operating like this for so long she has no checks and balances, no self reflection and no ability to see how silly she looks. She also has limited ability to operate outside her world. In the real, un-FaceTuned world she finds herself just another person and one with a very parochial view who doesn’t really know how to handle herself or how the world works (if the Delhi airport meltdown is anything to go by). What a shame people fall for this Poundland influencer and get rinsed. It’s a pretty unhealthy way to live too.

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YouOKHun · 27/05/2024 17:44

@PieonaBarm more a case of needing to keep on the move I should think!

When Sleaze was wondering about in Vietnam (or wherever it was he and Wig were buying their diamanté Cartier Tank watches), he kept saying Dubai would be their permanent home didn’t he? I expect he didn’t have enough money to get a residency visa. Dubai can’t be that fussy if Messiah can settle there (assuming he’s not have to leave Dubai and then return every so often) but I expect Messiah had more money sourced from his victims. Sleaze is lower down the food chain. So Sleaze has had to spin being on the run without a pot to piss in as being “an international traveller”.

They’re staying with Sleaze’s DM in Portugal who has shown herself to be a right mug and willing to support him without asking any questions. So I think Portugal offers a safe haven and the opportunity to spend her pension for her. Do multi millionaire power couples normally camp at their mum’s house?

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SnoogyWoo · 27/05/2024 17:46

How can Yawn have lost 6 stone with an arse like that 🤔

Angrymum22 · 27/05/2024 18:23

Maybe she has started eating secret McDonald’s in the shower again. It’s funny how she has stopped posting all those food photos, I can’t find her on TicToc anymore. Maybe FL chiefs found out about her sideline and closed it down.

YouOKHun · 27/05/2024 18:43

@Angrymum22 I think TikTok was a bit risky for Yawn. People were on to her quickly; she was getting called out too much and getting reported for her stealth recruiting and selling. She also had a telling off for not labelling her posts as advertising and as soon as she had to confess to advertising and it was clear it was MLM … I think that killed it. Very difficult to cram into a ten hour working week!

Plus she’d paid money to that agency (named after the type of pasta often had with Bolognese), and then no doubt taken the only advice they ever give and paid money for followers. It reminds me a bit of the bots’ reception on Twitter back in the day - they soon found out it was tricky to bully and block “negative” people there.

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Spongebobette · 27/05/2024 18:46

She didn’t last long on Twitter either

BSintolerant · 27/05/2024 18:47

Yawn must’ve inspired by this video of Putin walking! 😉How long she’ll be Stayin’ Alive in Forever Living is anyone’s guess.

Putin Staying Alive

Russian President Vladimir Putin, walking to the music of the Bee Gees. The world is too serious.

https://youtu.be/tTODZpmM5xs?si=E-j05Y_yhskhqAlR

MrsDilligaf · 27/05/2024 18:49

Angrymum22 · 27/05/2024 18:23

Maybe she has started eating secret McDonald’s in the shower again. It’s funny how she has stopped posting all those food photos, I can’t find her on TicToc anymore. Maybe FL chiefs found out about her sideline and closed it down.

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She's still on tictok, although no where near as prolific as she once was.

Spongebobette · 27/05/2024 18:51

She’s still on TikTok but the posts seem to be the same as her Insta ones
I particularly enjoyed the ‘mummy is home from India’ with the dogs outside the front door with a nice view of the manky thatch and scruffy driveway

ItsTapasTime · 27/05/2024 18:54

I must admit that botwatch ( and viewing the bots latest SM) is my guilty pleasure. Started about botwatch 70 something, when my DIL was being drawn into MLM’s. Thankfully, she has gone back to a normal JOB and isn’t pushing the overpriced crap anymore.
Every morning, with my first cup of tea, I catch up on their latest posts. Dear God, they are boring. Not one inspirational lifestyle post between them.
Uber still seems to have a half decent lifestyle ( without mentioning the divorce or selling her house), but the others just post pictures/ videos of their child, pets or walking in the countryside. It’s very sad 😂.

YouOKHun · 27/05/2024 20:12

@BSintolerant 🤣

@Spongebobette No, Twitter was not kind to the likes of Uber, Yawn and Mr Yawn (and others) was it?! Even Bloodsucker who had a decent following gave up in 2022 after getting more traction tweeting complaints to courier companies than when she referred to FLP. There is a veritable graveyard of abandoned bot Twitter accounts to see. Sadly I’m blocked by the bosses and the company. The DSA UK has given up its Twitter/X too so it doesn’t have to put up with that pesky antiMLM hashtag it can’t delete!

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Angrymum22 · 27/05/2024 21:21

I think I may have been blocked. Not sure why though.

Angrymum22 · 27/05/2024 21:39

Mrs Stickman has left a creaky comment on FB. I never know whether she is having a dig or not.

Spongebobette · 27/05/2024 22:23

Ooh what does she say?

notgettinganyyounger · 27/05/2024 22:25

Who is Mrs stickman?

YouOKHun · 27/05/2024 23:07

@Spongebobette Yawn’s put up another clip, this time a film of Yawn walking towards someone else’s country house, with some trite bit of Hun philosophy (didn’t read it). The film is of Yawn’s back view with her arse centre stage. Mrs Stickman has simply commented “L 🍑”. Yawn will assume the “L” is for luuurve but I think it’s an “L” for large. There is a waspish quality to Mrs Stickman’s rare posts and it’s not quite clear what she means but I’m not as confident as Yawn thatMrs Stickman’s on Awn’s side.

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Angrymum22 · 27/05/2024 23:43

Mrs Stickman is an ex bot who very quickly realised her mistake. Mr Stickman used to make interesting decorations with sticks and string, hence nickname, but is actually a marketing manager for a large motor trader group.
I do think that she has realised that Yawn is just thick and her narcissism means that she doesn’t recognise irony. I’ve noticed that a number of her “old friends can be quite mean but their ambiguity mean that it goes straight over her fluffy head.

Contraryjane · 28/05/2024 09:54

Headband is copying Yawns ridiculous poses.

YouOKHun · 28/05/2024 10:23

Fierce has relaunched herself with a series of Lives where she will be coaching suckers to have a £100k a month coaching business coaching others to have a £100k a month coaching business coaching others …

She has chosen Spain for her current swindle. I wonder where they are living having sold “their” large villa. I’m fairly certain that large villa contained two or more apartments and I’m less sure they owned the building, though a reverse image does show the photos of it she shared as recently sold on real estate agents’ websites (but not necessarily sold by them). If they did own an apartment then I think this is down to one of them having a parent who funded it and who also funded the mini cottage accommodation for coaching clients (I counted only one of those).

Last time she actively relaunched after a gap (during which the previous victims conveniently moved on) she was successful in taking a large amount of money from people for nothing in return. Any complainers received lots of typo riddled legal threats and refusals to refund on the basis consumer law didn’t apply as the individual who signed up had entered a business to business contract with her.

I’m going to be watching her with interest with fingers crossed she doesn’t capture anyone. Coaching scams are everywhere now and so are her dodgy reviews so I think (hope) it will be hard for her to achieve the misery she caused last time.

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Spongebobette · 28/05/2024 13:27

What’s this Agora that Mrs Stickmam is now involved with ??

YouOKHun · 28/05/2024 14:00

Fierce has gone for a very similar scam to her Fox TV scam, another TV company this time. This was the scam that lost individuals between £5-10k each.

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terrywynne · 28/05/2024 15:32

YouOKHun · 28/05/2024 14:00

Fierce has gone for a very similar scam to her Fox TV scam, another TV company this time. This was the scam that lost individuals between £5-10k each.

I was wondering how she could talk like this was a new opportunity when I was sure I had read reviews that mentioned some TV opportunity she offered people. I hadn't registered it was with a different TV network now.

YouOKHun · 28/05/2024 17:42

@terrywynne NBC now. Mind you I can’t see anything that makes reference to it anywhere else on line. I know that quite a few who paid her to be part of the Fox thing found out later that anyone could sign up for a lot less than she was charging and she had no real involvement in whatever it was that Fox was running. It’s a bit like me saying “I’ll sign you up to an exclusive London club as one of only ten elite members for £5K”, and then you get there all your friends are already there and they’ve all got in for free.

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OhMyGiddyAunt · 28/05/2024 20:04

@YouOKHun - I've just done a reverse image search of the pool photos on Fierce's facebook post and it's listed on Booking . com and an Andalucian/Malaga hotel site as guesthouse with individual suites although I can't seem to find any available dates coming up so this maybe confirms that it's been sold.

Reviews mention owner Anita and handyman James ....remind me again what Fierce's husband is called 🤔