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Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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YouOKHun · 23/05/2024 19:09

New Fred

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Contraryjane · 20/07/2024 09:02

That video looks like something from The Apprentice, utterly cringeworthy. As for her voice……
and she clearly has no friends, otherwise one of them surely would have a word about how incongruous is The Wig.
The worst part was the hand holding 🤮

Shortpoet · 20/07/2024 11:07

I must still be on a Castle list somewhere. I just got notified of a new Big Reveal group via Messenger. (How many big reveals does a business need)?

She is going to share a platform that has helped her with her productivity (that I’m betting has a wonderful affiliate programme)
Sunday at 8pm. So far 1 person is going.

Spongebobette · 20/07/2024 11:10

Every couple of weeks there is a countdown to something new and amazing by Castle, or a secret she’s never shared before

surely it’s obvious to her followers by now that she’s out of ideas?

Spongebobette · 20/07/2024 11:13

In her new ‘free’ group she’s offering cash rewards for joining
and Amazon vouchers if you share the post (well, a chance to win….)

Spongebobette · 20/07/2024 12:23

Yawn’s ex BFF is claiming she’s lost 10lb in 10 days

🙄

OhMyGiddyAunt · 20/07/2024 12:48

Spongebobette · 20/07/2024 12:23

Yawn’s ex BFF is claiming she’s lost 10lb in 10 days

🙄

Uber has also made similar claims about weightloss....wonder where this is heading?

fitgirl26 · 20/07/2024 12:57

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 00:45

I bring joyous news! Wig and Sleaze have filmed another promotion video. It's all about their success. Something about crowded bottoms, borrowed naff-tastic cars, hand waving and Wig's best ventriloquist dummy impersonation. They filmed it as part of them sharing their massive success with the rest of us apparently.

Don't all rush at once ... (actually, do rush to watch it, it's excruciating/entertaining).

That is hilarious! Who decided she would be the one to say "business consultancy" 🤣 The cheesy corporate music 🤣 The posing with a flash car that isn't theirs 🤣 The clinking glasses of wine 🤣 The hand holding 🤮

BSintolerant · 20/07/2024 16:37

Angrymum22 · 19/07/2024 21:22

Yawn has been consulting with a mindset coach. A quick google reveals this coach is a bigger fraud than Yawn. She does intuition readings🤣

”During this session, I'll tap into my intuition and help you unlock the bigger plan the universe has for you. We'll chat about breaking those sneaky limiting beliefs and steering your life toward the kind of fulfillment that makes you do a happy dance. ”

Not sure about her intuition but my intuition tells me that she is an even bigger con artist than her latest mug. And her spelling needs checking too.

However, this got me thinking and maybe Yawn was on a fishing trip. This maybe her new project, although like Castle, with an attention span of a gnat I doubt she’ll stick at it for long.

@Angrymum22 who is the mindset coach?

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 17:24

@Angrymum22 her first name is the same as the actress with the last name Bergen, second name is the same as the man famous for describing his turkeys as bootiful (then take off the final letter of the last name to get hers). You'll absolutely know her when you find her.

As mentioned above, her CH accounts don't look like she has any commercial wisdom to impart, though Yawn is only interested in the magical thinking element. The company she runs has a fellow director who is her sister. There is quite an interesting document online where her DS has taken her employer (a school) to court regarding their unfair treatment of her while she was absent due to long term sickness (for stress, which is too vague really) little evidence could be produced. The coach in question pops up in this document more than once.

One of the reasons the judge (I think) didn't think her story of severe depression and anxiety (as diagnosed by the GP) was true is because of the dodgy nature of the business the sisters were clearly running and prioritising over their day jobs. The comment is made that the glossy, super positive 'live your best life' 'let us show you how to improve YOUR mental health' coaching and manifesting the sisters presented on social media and in videos was at odds with her claims (being made at the same time) of not being able to return to her teaching job due to debilitating A&D. There is definitely a sense of them being flaky and inauthentic in the presentation of the facts - enough to find in her employer's favour.

Oh course we know that super positive 'manifesting is amazing; look at my life!' Is often a cover for a much more difficult reality so who knows? Yawn might want to choose her mentor carefully all the same.

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SunflowerVibes · 20/07/2024 18:05

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 00:45

I bring joyous news! Wig and Sleaze have filmed another promotion video. It's all about their success. Something about crowded bottoms, borrowed naff-tastic cars, hand waving and Wig's best ventriloquist dummy impersonation. They filmed it as part of them sharing their massive success with the rest of us apparently.

Don't all rush at once ... (actually, do rush to watch it, it's excruciating/entertaining).

Omg, I am PMSL!!! 😭😂😂😂 These two just never fail to deliver!! This is almost on a par with the original boat one. Wig’s wig looks utterly dire - like fake doesn’t even cut it! As for her public speaking, you almost have to admire that her lisp etc seemingly hasn’t even registered. As for the crazy hand gestures pointing here there and everywhere, my goodness!!! After all that, I’m none the wiser about what they’re selling! The utter pair of buffoons!

OhMyGiddyAunt · 20/07/2024 18:47

"That is hilarious! Who decided she would be the one to say "business consultancy" 🤣 "

@fitgirl26 I nearly spat my drink out at that 🤣

fitgirl26 · 20/07/2024 19:06

OhMyGiddyAunt · 20/07/2024 18:47

"That is hilarious! Who decided she would be the one to say "business consultancy" 🤣 "

@fitgirl26 I nearly spat my drink out at that 🤣

It's almost as good as Chris Eubank introducing Suggs singing Cecilia 🤣
I wouldn't normally mock a speech impediment but as she's a lowlife scammer she's fair game...

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 19:12

@fitgirl26 I'm just messaging Wig and Sleaze now to say I will invest eleven billionty pounds in their opportunity if, and ONLY if, Yawn will recite 'She sells Sea Shells on the Sea Shore' purely for my entertainment. I'll also invest only if Sleaze will let me amputate his arms to stop them waving about and also to stop him being able to reach into other people's wallets. They are probably desperate so I think they may go for it.

I wonder if they parked the elderly Fiat Uno in that car park before standing in front of someone else's car and filming it driving away. I hope they can afford the parking.

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Spongebobette · 20/07/2024 20:23

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 17:24

@Angrymum22 her first name is the same as the actress with the last name Bergen, second name is the same as the man famous for describing his turkeys as bootiful (then take off the final letter of the last name to get hers). You'll absolutely know her when you find her.

As mentioned above, her CH accounts don't look like she has any commercial wisdom to impart, though Yawn is only interested in the magical thinking element. The company she runs has a fellow director who is her sister. There is quite an interesting document online where her DS has taken her employer (a school) to court regarding their unfair treatment of her while she was absent due to long term sickness (for stress, which is too vague really) little evidence could be produced. The coach in question pops up in this document more than once.

One of the reasons the judge (I think) didn't think her story of severe depression and anxiety (as diagnosed by the GP) was true is because of the dodgy nature of the business the sisters were clearly running and prioritising over their day jobs. The comment is made that the glossy, super positive 'live your best life' 'let us show you how to improve YOUR mental health' coaching and manifesting the sisters presented on social media and in videos was at odds with her claims (being made at the same time) of not being able to return to her teaching job due to debilitating A&D. There is definitely a sense of them being flaky and inauthentic in the presentation of the facts - enough to find in her employer's favour.

Oh course we know that super positive 'manifesting is amazing; look at my life!' Is often a cover for a much more difficult reality so who knows? Yawn might want to choose her mentor carefully all the same.

How did you find the stuff about the court case?

YouOKHun · 20/07/2024 21:40

@Spongebobette by staying up far too late and messing around on Google! You can’t miss it if you search on the DS’s full name. The tribunal is published on the .gov website which (for me at least) appears on the first search page. It’s rather a lot of words so my summing up may have missed a lot. The judge clearly doesn’t hold their biz in high regard.

The sisters still have a SM presence together focussing on Law of A and the sister is also still teaching. I hope she is keeping LoA out of the school.

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YouOKHun · 21/07/2024 01:52

There is another mercifully short but cringey video from Sleaze. This time calling Wig from the drivers seat of someone else's BMW to tell her he is coming to pick her up and take her to wear "it all started".

I assume he means the good old days when they were fiddling benefits in a small terrace in a Welsh city. These days they have expanded to fiddling naive members of the public but can no longer aspire to reach the dizzy heights of where it all started. I really hope he gets his comeuppance soon.

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Spongebobette · 21/07/2024 07:51

‘No cry babies’ in his bio presumably means don’t come to him complaining when you lose all your money

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2024 08:29

Didn't it start with FLP for Wig?

YouOKHun · 21/07/2024 10:46

@Twentytwentyhindsight yes you’re right. FLP makes such a great contribution to society by taking the terminally stupid and self serving and showing them a way to trample over others to achieve what looks like success. Eventually they emerge butterfly-like. Look at the prestigious list of luminaries who can thank FLP for the start it gave them:
Wig - international global millionaire and bailiffs favourite, also a coach
Castle - six/seven/eight figure earner and millionaire, creator of the 9 day a week, 36 day a month, 8 month a year planner, printer of slogan hoodies, a coach
Fierce - multimillionaire and international traveller in the Ronnie Biggs style and a coach
Homeschool - prestige car entrepreneur and coach
PENDING: Yawn - International entrepreneur and millionaire, loser (of weight) and Law of Attraction coach.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2024 11:40

Let's not forget PhD Bot, multimillionaire and coach, last spotted living above a shanty town somewhere in Southeast Asia...

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2024 11:41

Speaking of our favourite highly educated Bot, has anyone been keeping tabs lately?

YouOKHun · 21/07/2024 11:55

Oh yes PhD! I knew I was missing some key successes. Last time I looked she was giving financial advice on Insta and trying to beat the FB algorithms by spelling key words like 'investment' or 'financial' in peculiar ways 'in.vestment' 'm0ney' etc. she kept changing her name and I lost track.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2024 12:07

@YouOKHun that's pretty much when I lost track also.

terrywynne · 21/07/2024 16:48

Cos dodgy algorithm beating spelling and frequent name changes are the hallmarks of a successful and professional business leader, right??

Butterflyfluff · 21/07/2024 17:27

Just to prove the Yawn’s followers simply ignore her ridiculous posts about new adventures etc.

Sadly, one of her dogs has passed away and it’s had more than 200 ‘likes’ (not a great term given the circumstances but you know what I mean).

Just goes to show how many people read her posts but just ignore them.

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