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Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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YouOKHun · 23/05/2024 19:09

New Fred

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ticktock19 · 02/07/2024 10:03

SunflowerVibes · 02/07/2024 09:57

I’m not a dog person so perhaps a bit clueless, just wondered, as with cats, is it not good practice to neuter dogs for health reasons etc? (Having seen Yawn’s post about her big dog being “on her period”.

I think Yawn could be getting the house horse spayed now that she's had a 'heat' already and is over a year. I know vets spay later now as it's proven to have health benefits but even for house horse sized dogs then the thinking is 12-14 months is a good time. Of course surgical procedures for house horses are not cheap so that could be another reason why she's delaying it

PieonaBarm · 02/07/2024 11:08

Maybe Mr Yawn is in his probation period at work and missing a day or two at short notice might have an impact on his continued employment......

ticktock19 · 02/07/2024 11:45

That's a very good point @PieonaBarm, maybe the monster truck will soon be vanishing. I completely agree with you all the Yawn looked near hysterical Sun and Mon and her eyes looked very tearful. She's either using a shit filter or was very upset. Uber & ex bff seemed to find the whole thing funny and enjoyed their adventure. Maybe the yawns couldn't afford the £670 that it would cost them to do the same so were reliant on easyJet accommodating / feeding them until they could fly them home. They had a horrifically early flight home booked on the Sunday whereas everyone else was planning on going Sunday night so maybe they did have to be home urgently for Mr Yawns job

SunflowerVibes · 02/07/2024 11:54

ticktock19 · 02/07/2024 10:03

I think Yawn could be getting the house horse spayed now that she's had a 'heat' already and is over a year. I know vets spay later now as it's proven to have health benefits but even for house horse sized dogs then the thinking is 12-14 months is a good time. Of course surgical procedures for house horses are not cheap so that could be another reason why she's delaying it

Thanks for that - certainly interesting… From what I’ve seen, if there’s one redeeming feature Yawn has, she does seem to be a responsible and loving dog owner and it wouldn’t be surprising if it’s actually the prohibitive cost of the op delaying it.

I’m amazed at how stressful she found the whole thing when she was just in neighbouring France, fair to say, she’s led a sheltered life and always had others deal with certain things like logistics for her. Poor clueless but egotistical Yawn.

Sugarplum48 · 02/07/2024 12:26

Yawn has always had someone to hold her hand or take control of adulting. I remember her once saying she won't even take the bins out as its "not her thing" and going as far as not even putting a new bin bag in a bin, just throwing the rubbish/food scraps and then leaving Mr yawn to clean up the mess. She's always been very privileged and spoilt.

BangingOn · 02/07/2024 13:56

I don’t think she has stooped so low (in her eyes) yet, but I was wondering whether Yawn herself has had to get a job and that’s why she was panicking about getting home.

HellooooJackie · 02/07/2024 14:00

Castle is having a 'moment' - is that about Fierce?!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/07/2024 14:14

I've not seen Yawn with such a lack of composure ever - she looked awful in that video and as a PP said, not something she'd ever usually post. I got stuck in Spain for three days longer due to the Icelandic volcano and it was bloody GREAT, so something doesn't add up.

In other news, enjoy this incredible word salad from one of Fierce's woo mates

Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 14:34

Interesting theory @BangingOn and very much a possibility.

I also felt (as someone said upthread) that she seemed to be trying to appease Mr Yawn. I wonder if Mr Y lost his temper and had something to say about being dragged on a weekend that was very much about keeping up appearances, having the associated costs of doing so, having cheap badly timed plane seats, having flights cancelled and spending an expensive 24 hours killing time on what should be a working day. All very well during the distant and all too brief good times but these days Mr Yawn must resent being put through a tedious budget trip just to try and prop up something he must know is effectively over.

Over on 2jags’s feed she is saying they’ve FLP has just had its most profitable month this year, as if it’s the start of a boom. It’s a temporary blip thanks to the downlines buying their body weight in Collagen, but it’s downhill all the way to flogging the odd C9 to the deluded in the new year. 2Jags can rely on her DH’s steady income and she doesn’t have a directors loan to deal with.

Perhaps Yawn had estate agents coming round to measure up?

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YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 14:57

@dickiedavisthunderthighs I’ve read that word salad six times (more fool me) and I’m still not sure what it says (if indeed it does say anything). Roughly translated I think it might mean this,

during a night of no sleep and terrible indigestion it dawned on me that I must immediately delete anyone or anything that might lead creditors or previous victims to my door. Once I’d done this I felt better. Now that previous crowd is blocked I can announce that the next version of my fairy-winged shite is ready for a new audience made up of the terminally hard of thinking.

Have I missed anything?

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BangingOn · 02/07/2024 15:10

That was me @YouOKHun and having watched it again it definitely feels like a fall out. Feels like Mr Yawn was reached his FL limit and the only lack of sympathy I have is that he’s indulged it for too long.

ItsTapasTime · 02/07/2024 17:41

Hmm, so headband has just asked “what would you do with an extra £50 per week?” and added “ you can an earn £200 a month for no more than 5 hours work a week”. So that’s less than minimum wage 🙄. A bit less than the ‘earn £2000 a month’ claims made by the other bots? Is this a race to the bottom?

Spongebobette · 02/07/2024 17:49

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/07/2024 14:14

I've not seen Yawn with such a lack of composure ever - she looked awful in that video and as a PP said, not something she'd ever usually post. I got stuck in Spain for three days longer due to the Icelandic volcano and it was bloody GREAT, so something doesn't add up.

In other news, enjoy this incredible word salad from one of Fierce's woo mates

This is absolutely HILARIOUSLY AWFUL

notgettinganyyounger · 02/07/2024 18:24

I believe the word salad means that Fierce's Woo mate is about to deposit a gargantuan shit in the toilet.

spanfan · 02/07/2024 18:30

Fierce must he talking about castle. Surely. Brutal ( and quite possibly a load of self absorbed rubbish!!!)

They're both as bad as each other!!!

YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 20:09

Yawn describes her world as “marketing, sales, recruitment and coaching”. I don’t think that is specific enough; she recruits by false marketing and then coaches those people to make sales to each other and themselves and recruit others for the same rinsing. What she knows about marketing, sales, recruitment and coaching has no validity outside that culty MLM world she and others like her inhabit.

Things must be desperate as she is talking of luxury income and financial freedom again, she can’t afford to moderate the lies, she desperately needs victims right now.

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ItsTapasTime · 02/07/2024 20:30

YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 20:09

Yawn describes her world as “marketing, sales, recruitment and coaching”. I don’t think that is specific enough; she recruits by false marketing and then coaches those people to make sales to each other and themselves and recruit others for the same rinsing. What she knows about marketing, sales, recruitment and coaching has no validity outside that culty MLM world she and others like her inhabit.

Things must be desperate as she is talking of luxury income and financial freedom again, she can’t afford to moderate the lies, she desperately needs victims right now.

Tbh, I think she would do ok in sales in a normal company. She’s no expert and would certainly be taken down a peg or two, but I think she could do ok.
I’ve worked in sales and business for many years. Some of our most successful sales people, although outwardly confident, have demons and are usually trying to prove a point. She would fit in well. Perhaps it’s time for yawn to get a proper job?

OhMyGiddyAunt · 02/07/2024 20:35

Looking at some of the official photos from Cannes .... what did Yawn do to piss off the photographer 😆

Looks like a different person to her own heavily doctored photos ...as usual

YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 21:49

@ItsTapasTime yes it’s definitely time for her to get a proper job!

I know what you mean about Yawn in sales but I wonder about her and any of the supposedly successful bots and how transferrable their NWM skills really are. Would she be good at non-NWM sales? I could see her doing a retail sales job but not a B2B type thing (not my area but you know what I mean). But I am not sure she’s got the application for either.

From what I understand from friends in sales jobs and what I know of them, there is plenty of back office ability required and also an ability to sell whatever it is in a real marketplace with real competitors without flouting any laws by miss-selling. Most bots would fall at the first hurdle! I can’t imagine Yawn doing any of that and doing it consistently and well given that she seems to have very low tolerance and is very easy to upset. Has she ever used Excel? Could she deal with the financial stuff? Could she run along with colleagues? She doesn’t have a great record there.

It’s the same with 2Jags, she might be pushy and happy enough to rinse what she can but it seems to me these top bots are just talking heads and what they do is only possible if FLP is doing the thinking for them. 2Jags as we know does not know the difference between profit and turnover. Castle hasn’t done an honest days work for years and can only count if she is counting her parents’ money. I’m sure Uber and Bloodsucker are a little more savvy but Yawn? I think she knows she absolutely fucked if FLP doesn’t continue because she can’t replicate the ‘status’ (or even today’s meagre FLP earnings) elsewhere. If she could I think she’d already be out of NWM.

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YouOKHun · 02/07/2024 21:51

*rub along with colleagues

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ItsTapasTime · 02/07/2024 22:17

@YouOKHun ‘From what I understand from friends in sales jobs and what I know of them, there is plenty of back office ability required’. Yes! You need to be be able to communicate with the people who are doing all the work behind the scenes. She may struggle with that. I think she will also struggle with rejection. Proper (b2b) is brutal. Nobody cares about sm. I still hopes she gets a proper job.

Angrymum22 · 03/07/2024 12:36

Does anyone else think that the black & white photo of Yawn shows the true character that she is at pains to hide with the filtering and bullshit. It borders on screen goddess but the sneer on her lips takes it into full on b*#ch.

Spongebobette · 03/07/2024 13:28

I think it’s interesting that both her children are in full time employment and haven’t followed her into network marketing

Spongebobette · 03/07/2024 13:39

Where’s the sneering at those who are in a J O B???

PieonaBarm · 03/07/2024 14:48

So if Yawn and Mr Yawn work from home just 10 hours a week why do they need to get up at 6am when they only got home at 3am? So Mr Y can go to his j.o.b? Yawn, you really need to cover your tracks better.....