botwatch 81. The latest thread in a very long series about the deceptions practised by mlms. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97 of those who join lose money?

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Thread 81! The scam that keeps on giving! MLM, network marking, social selling or whatever else you want to call it. It rinses you of your money, time and friends for the dream of wealth, which never happens. Why? The business model ensures that only those at the very top of the 'pyramid' stand a chance of wealth, all the rest of us just "pay to play". The dream is a nightmare. Tell your stores here.

That's very blurry - it's from this link on this post on the FBO page

A ‘little’ elongated 03 plate!

I'd say thata the 17 year old daughters car. Seen her knocking g about in it.

The rangey must be gone or they would drive it everywhere to look successful.

Or it’s sitting on the driveway and they avoid using it as it’s a gas guzzler

I think the Rangey is gone, even if they can’t afford to drive it, if it was sitting on the drive it would work itself into a photo. Whenever she is pictured in a car in recent weeks it’s clearly not a RR.

How to spin the loss of that car? It will be some tale of wanting a simple life or being more environmentally friendly.

I've been doing a bit of looking at the company nurse has done her coaching with, they definitely don't look legit, I do wonder what they think of her business page as its part of there 'brand' or if they just don't care now they've got her money. Her page baffles me, it's supposed to be a business but it's all just about her normal daily life. And not being able to give up chocolate for 1 day, when you're supporting to be coaching people to change their mindset to overcome challenges/get what they want etc, it instills no confidence when you can't even do it yourself. Does she never think hmm how does my page look from a potential client perspective, why don't these scammy places cover any of that with them?!

It’s enraging isn’t it that someone can be fleeced by such a company, believing their certificates actually mean something

nurse is a perfect victim - MLM first then onto ‘coaching’ and she’s the one paying out each time

I fear that her new proper job will just be a way to find more ‘courses’

• fund more courses

Hi botwatchers! Long time no see!

Does anyone know anything about Paul Mort? I vaguely know someone who has been taken in by it and frankly, it's sounds incredibly culty. Some self proclaimed self help guru who charges £££ to teach predominantly men how to journal.

Yawn has changed her insta bio. No longer proclaiming she's numero uno!!

@acatcalledjohn never heard of him but it sounds like a load of shouty macho bollocks! Have you seen his accounts a CH? Perhaps he’s keeping the money he makes under his mattress?

Apparently he runs some of the more expensive courses from "his" villa in Ibiza. My guess is that the bank loan pays for a long term rental because it certainly isn't an asset of the company.

Selling a lifestyle which appeals to predominantly men in their 30s/40s/50s. Like an Andrew Tate but for millennials and older.

Every time Yawn posts when out on a dog walk with Mr Yawn she always claims they spend that time talking about their plans, setting goals etc .

I reckon the truth is more like they're talking about how the hell they're going to afford to get the house re-thatched and how they're going to explain the lack of aspirational lifestyle indicators like (non FL) holidays, flashy vehicles, designer goods.

According to Yawn her latest recruit is all set up to build a £5000 a month income! 🤣🤣🤣

Ah yes ‘making plans to’ ‘setting goals to’

how does that work out for the poor fresh bot I wonder?

I also think that Yawn’s motivation for weight loss was not her GP sending her a warning, it was realising that the wheels were coming off and she needed to sell a different kind of aspiration. New year was nearly upon her and this time she didn’t have the option to start another C9 then quietly drop it, she needed to be able to sell successful weight loss to recruit people. Weight loss is the new aspirational Michael Kors handbag purchase and so much cheaper to position as “success”. So now her critics are not poor losers, they’re all fat losers 🙄

Yawn’s problem is that while she was losing weight that was of interest to some. But watching someone maintain their weight at a steady level is like watching paint dry. It’s really not much cop as a spectator sport. It’s not collaborative. Feeling you’re part of her weight loss “journey” as it’s happening is one thing, signing up for C9 etc and getting patronised by someone you can’t relate to is quite another. And now her journey has come to an end what’s left? The benefit of her expertise on nutrition? On the menopause? We get it, you lost 6 stone, great, but that was last year. She’s running out of material and the dieting industry bonanza that is January is over. How to keep your head above water for the rest of 2024?

I’m sure you’re right @NormalForNuneaton those dog walks are not about the villa with a pool, they’re about some very big ticket expenses they can’t hope to cover even with Mr Yawn working in a J.O.B like the rest of us losers.

Personally my DH and I love planning a 2 week family holiday, Which as far as I can see Yawn has not had one for at least 10 years. Her last trip was a weekend in London which actually turned out to be a day. Or the family week in Spain which was actually a long weekend!

Yawn has treated her followers to an un-photoshopped picture of her arse. My first thought is that she was lucky she didn’t come off her bike on one of Yawnsville’s A roads as she is wearing head to toe black to complement the night sky and the tarmac. She could end up flying high with the soaring pigeons. No one wants to see an old bike flattened by a vehicle.

Interesting ManHun showcased by FLP. He has clearly dropped in and out of FLP over the years taking what he calls a “sabbatical” from FLP. He’s now back (terrible timing) and has been dragged in by a student who hopes to emulate the success of his late mother. Sadly for the student his late mother’s FLP success was a while ago. It would be very sad to see someone so young with clearly much potential, who has already suffered a loss, take the MLM path into oblivion. He may have a false sense of security based on his mother’s FLP success. As for the man he’s sponsored, I expect he’ll be taking another long sabbatical soon.

Thank you for that unexpected avenue of amusement @YouOKHun - my Friday would not have been complete without it. 😉I went to look for the photo of Yawn’s arse and my phone froze mid-scroll (it was obviously trying to protect my innocent eyes and mind from such filth). As a result of what can only be described as half-arsed censorship, I could only see the top half of Yawn’s arse which (thanks to the black gear, mud on her rear and poor light), resembled the back end of a hippopotamus.

Altogether now:

“Mud, mud, glorious mud
Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood …” 😂

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpottedonRightmove/s/oodKAcB4dOO^

Well spotted @acatcalledjohn ! I wonder if any Botwatchers will contribute to the comments? 😉

I’ve never seen a pic of the castle before! before.

But I’ve just googled Castle’s name and the name of the folly (thanks to Reddit), and indeed it is.
They moved out a while ago I think, or are they responsible for the “Please take off your choos” sign 😂

I remember when Castle lived at the Castle (yes I've been on these threads that long under various names!) ... I don't ever remember any boasts about the pool though.

Maybe that wasn't included in the rent or they couldn't afford to heat it

@Shortpoet folly is absolutely the right word in more ways than one isn’t it?! I loved watching her getting called out on her failure to correct the assumption her FLP success had paid for it. Wasn’t it Bruv who told the direct lie that she owned it? I can’t remember now. It was a very good example of the trickery FLP is happy to pull to dazzle people into signing up. They’re still doing it now (in a bargain basement way).