botwatch 81. The latest thread in a very long series about the deceptions practised by mlms. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97 of those who join lose money?

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Thread 81! The scam that keeps on giving! MLM, network marking, social selling or whatever else you want to call it. It rinses you of your money, time and friends for the dream of wealth, which never happens. Why? The business model ensures that only those at the very top of the 'pyramid' stand a chance of wealth, all the rest of us just "pay to play". The dream is a nightmare. Tell your stores here.

Home boarding for dogs is expensive. We paid for 2 nights for ours when we got married and it was £160. And that was nine years ago and he was a small terrier. She's not talking about the other dogs so is there a reason she can't leave them with the adult kids, do the dogs not get on? She never walks them together.

Unless she's just posted it to get some engagement .

I think we've spotted before that if her posts are not getting many likes or comments she posts a doggy one. Guaranteed responses and interaction.

Yawn, it’s bear, not bare. You can’t “bear” to put dog in kennels. Not that you can’t “bare”. Jeez.

@DeliaDeetz she does have a 'team'. It's her cousin who hasn't mentioned selling FLP for several years now and has deactivated her FB 'group'

Yawn put in one of the comments:

'we have people here looking after the 3 little dogs & cat, it’s alot with all 4 for anyone to take on, so farming -dog's name- out makes life easier for all'

I reckon maybe the dog needs loads of walking or she destroys the house or something and maybe Mr Yawn and the kids don't like walking for hours on end like Yawn does!

And as well as not knowing the difference between bear and bare, she also thinks a lot is one word!!

I think Yawn's kids have probably told her to stuff looking after the house horse and Mr Yawn will be busy working all hours of the day and night to keep their finances together while she shits herself inside out in India.

Dear God, yawns latest tiktok. The only thing l could concentrate on were her hard nips poking through her sports top. She obviously realised and tried to adjust the camera but just couldn't stop the hand gestures enough.

Must of been cold in there 😆

Castle telling us about her 13yo cousin and her nutrition business.

Thanks luv but I'm not sure anyone should take advice from a teenager about diet, over you know, a qualified dietitian....

Yawn’s dog is always on a long training lead. Her recall is probably poor.

Who has rattled Fierce's cage?

Just so much lol in a single sentence

Am I bovvverrrred vibes

Nurse is so honest about the taste of the fl jiz then spins a tale about how healthy it is (making dubious medical claims) forgetting that we know both her and DS are regularly brought down with this illness or that illness. Why is she resurrecting this failure of an MLM organisation, again? She is working in nursing, doing her counselling so presumably making money . Or is she? Gah!

🤣😂 @Twentytwentyhindsight. I’m sure you’re right. I don’t get the feeling Yawn’s kids are on side at all. Mr Yawn has to earn enough to prop up FLP and doesn’t fancy holding Yawn’s hair out of the way while she vomits for a second year running.

Nurse has just mentioned going to Lego land on her stories...but the one in Brum now and is aghast at the cost of it.
Wasn't a trip to Lego land the dream that brought her to our attention all those years ago....best get planning that goal board again

Well @HellooooJackie I am told that one of Fierce’s arse lickers has told her about the Scampulse website in recent days which, amazingly, was news to her. I suppose she just googles “Fierce is the best person in the world” and avoids the negative. And now some dastardly meanie has asked her on that FB post if it’s that website she’s upset about and helpfully included a link just in case anyone else has missed it. I think it is probably to do with reading that website and realising it all rings very true and it’s a US website that will ignore her poorly spelled legal threats to take down the posts about her (if she tries that).

She’s proper cross but she’s got to be vague because if she’s too specific she’s just going to lead people straight to very negative reviews of people’s genuine experience of her. She is going to have to bring forward the departure date of that next caravanning adventure at this rate. I wonder is Ronnie Biggs or the Kray Twins ever considered caravanning as a way to evade the long arm of the law?

😂😂😂 I salute Jane Smith 👏👏👏

I think whatever Nurse is doing she’s always looking over her shoulder for something that looks easy and appears to deliver social acceptability, she’s the perfect MLM victim. Nursing is too much like hard work and there are no accolades, “promotions” or personally delivered certificates for doing your job to the minimum acceptable standard. There’s no way she’s doing any coaching because if she was she wouldn’t be reviving FLP. Now she’s working in a proper job FLP is starting to look exciting and now she’s got the money from her job she can use that to be her own best customer again 🙄.

Yes that’s what I thought - looks like she’s finished her ‘courses’ and is looking for something a bit more exciting than going to work and getting paid for it

mind you there’s a special offer on her coaching coming up in a desperate attempt to get a client

No, it was Cbeebies world/land which of course her son is too old for now, she didn't earn enough from FL to buy a ticket you would have thought that she would have cottoned on by now, but no, she's always trying to find an easy way to make money, the woman is bone idle.

Ahh, thank you @Wintersgirl, I couldn't remember

In case you’re all now thinking about CBeebies Land and need some highbrow input to deprogrammed the Tweenies theme tune now lodged in your brains, I bring you some highbrow stuff so you can all feel you’ve had just a touch of self-improvement this weekend:

Here’s your thought for the day from that sage called Castle.

HATE has four letters but so does LOVE
ENEMIES has seven letters but so does FRIENDS
LYING has 5 letters but so does TRUTH
FAILURE has 7 letters but so does SUCCESS
CRY has 3 letters but so does JOY
NEGATIVITY has 10 letters but so does POSITIVITY

Just your reminder today that we always have a CHOICE.

Choose the better side today!

Comment & Share to remind us all…. There’s always another side to every coin & we have the power to choose!

Why stop there Castle?

LYING has 5 letters and so does COACH
FAILURE does indeed have 7 letters as does PLANNER and so does FIBBING
CASTLE has 6 letters and so does BORING
ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM has 28 letters but who cares? It’s 4 letter words I’m inextricably drawn to.

My word, the reviews on fierce 9n trust pilot are incredibly damming. No wonder she's on the move again.

I've just been looking at Forever Living Products on Trust Pilot .

Any positive reviews are clearly from FBOs. Some horrendous stories in the negative reviews about people in places like Pakistan and Nigeria being scammed and first hand experience of how it brainwashes people:

• Overpriced products that sales of require recruiting people and brainwashing them to the points that it affects families. Embarassing sales techniques, you have to start with friends and families and try to flog the overpriced merchandise and try to groom them into selling it. Stay away. My wife and I are getting divorce because of that scammy company, she spends a fortune on those products and promissed income is just a lie. She tried to set up my kids as the sales people, she got her mom to sell that stuff...its changing people sort of like a cult or sect (in totally submissive behaviour). Sickening...should be illegal.

• I had the worst upline manager. Lied to me and showed off, subtly humiliated me, as well. Forever Living, Business Support, fobbed me off and wouldnt put me in touch with her upline manager so that she could be supervised. Bottom line, no integrity, no supervision. Great business for narcissists to join.

.....and this interesting one from a woman who was approached whilst dog-walking. I did wonder if it could be Yawn that approached her!

• I was approached bt a lady during walking my dogs, who's put words in my mouth, leading the conversation towards that I struggle (I don't), and that she runs a business that can help me. I thought maybe shs's a life coach, and I'm all in for supporting local businesses, so I thought you know what? Surprise me. I gave her my number. The message she's sent me was a youtube linknof the promo video (what a cheesy waste of time, that doesn't even say what the product IS), promises 6 figure earning without education, experience or effort, ohh give me a break. What a disgusting market strategy, to target the vulnerable, make them spend before they earn, and lure more people in to do the same. Revolting. I left her a saucy message to scam you know who, and not to approach me ever again.