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Universal credit managed migration thread

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ChristmasCatBells · 28/06/2023 14:50

Anyone else waiting for a migration notice this year?
Looks like they are planning to move people on tax credits only onto universal credit this year but haven't released any detailed timetables about areas.
Thought it might be useful to share experiences and information on here for those affected.

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Babyroobs · 15/01/2024 17:04

RainbowZebraWarrior · 15/01/2024 16:14

I'm following as I'm expecting to get my migration notice soon.

I don't have an answer therefore, but would have thought it would depend upon the nature of your health issue. e.g. You have a temporary condition expected to improve in a few months, or a long term health issue in which case you might be entitled to Low Capability for Working.

Do you currently get PIP or other benefit? I would imagine that would play a part in whats expected. I've just been awarded enhanced PIP myself, and it's a lifetime / indefinite award, so I wouldn't be expecting to be pushed forward for work myself. My PIP claim and evidence makes it very clear that I'm not able to work. I think it's going to depend on your personal circumstances. It's just bloody awful not knowing what the expectations are, isn't it?

They will not look at your PIP award , it is a separate benefit and assessment to the work capability process. you will need to go through the work capability process I think to determine that you are not fit for work. it can take some months but a sick note should mean you don't get asked to attend many appointments.

Babyroobs · 15/01/2024 17:24

Babyroobs · 15/01/2024 17:04

They will not look at your PIP award , it is a separate benefit and assessment to the work capability process. you will need to go through the work capability process I think to determine that you are not fit for work. it can take some months but a sick note should mean you don't get asked to attend many appointments.

Sorry I should also add that if you are currently on ESA as well as PIP then the ESA group that you are in would carry over with you to Universal credit. So if you are in the support group of ESA that would equate to the LCWRA element being added to your Uc claim.

megletthesecond · 15/01/2024 17:26

baby yes, my teen gets DLA. I work 3 days a week as any more creates problems. Once she finishes school in 18 months I hope to increase it a bit.

Babyroobs · 15/01/2024 17:32

megletthesecond · 15/01/2024 17:26

baby yes, my teen gets DLA. I work 3 days a week as any more creates problems. Once she finishes school in 18 months I hope to increase it a bit.

Ok so you just need to report yourself as her carer when you make the UC claim and you will have no work commitments as a carer so they couldn't ask you to look for more hours.

Timeforanewnam · 15/01/2024 18:08

does anyone know how long an advance will take to arrive after you apply for one ?

im hopeful that option will be available to me after my husband’s appointment tomorrow- we applied just over a week ago, and I’m starting to panic a bit

RaininSummer · 15/01/2024 19:11

Usually three working days unless they will do a faster payment for you.

malok1 · 16/01/2024 12:18

Does anyone know if for STANDARD IDENTITY APPOINTMENT Printout of Bank statement will be accepted as all statements are online now, can obviously show the original statement on the phone ?

Timeforanewnam · 16/01/2024 15:53

Although I can’t answer that question, my husband went into a identity appointment today - and needed to show two items from the list .

we had only been asked to take one . Luckily I had sent him three things just in case 🤣

FLLewis · 16/01/2024 19:53

I have had the migration letter and myself and husband are also self employed. Can you tell me what they asked for in the meeting and was it difficult to claim being self employed?

Babyroobs · 16/01/2024 21:00

FLLewis · 16/01/2024 19:53

I have had the migration letter and myself and husband are also self employed. Can you tell me what they asked for in the meeting and was it difficult to claim being self employed?

You may both have to go to a meeting to show you are gainfully self employed, that is showing that your business is profitable. they will likely want to know how long you have been self employed for, are you earnings at least nmw per hour etc. Each month you will need to report profits and expenses. They will likely explain what can be classed as expenses etc and explain the minimum income floor and how they work out how much Uc you will get.

SackOfShitandRegrets · 17/01/2024 12:31

Hiya, got my managed migration notice today. Need to migrate by 16th April.

When would you do it?

Should I do it asap or after 5th April when in new financial year?

I know either way I will need to do the tax credits end of year/declaration (used to be renewal but didn't seem right calling it that)

Fortunate to have savings over 16k so know lucky to get and will only be for 12 months.

Between me and my oh we work full time (paid 25th) and part time (last day of month)

3 children (2 at primary), currently get DLA and Carers (DLA up for renewal this May, currently doing the paperwork)

Sorry it's long, didn't want to drip feed.

Please let me know if missed anything you might need to advise with timing / making decision

SackOfShitandRegrets · 17/01/2024 12:38

Sorry meat to ask what the threshold was where you don't need to look for work or go in for appointments, wages are 2k and 27k Pa gross, net each month is about 300 and 1,800

Babyroobs · 17/01/2024 12:45

SackOfShitandRegrets · 17/01/2024 12:38

Sorry meat to ask what the threshold was where you don't need to look for work or go in for appointments, wages are 2k and 27k Pa gross, net each month is about 300 and 1,800

If you put yourself down as a carer for your disabled child then you won't have any work commitments or be asked to increase hours as long as the child is getting the care component of DLA at least middle rate.

SackOfShitandRegrets · 17/01/2024 17:35

Thank you:) x

If anyone can advise on best time to apply I'd be very grateful x

Jellykat · 17/01/2024 18:45

Oh hell, typical, i've got my appointment tomorrow afternoon, but snow is forecast (i'm in rural Wales) hope i dont get penalised if i cant get in!

Allyballybee445 · 17/01/2024 20:32

My first appointment was meant to be Thursday 18th it was then changed to Friday 19th and today it has been changed to Friday 26th. I did manage to get a fit note from my GP and log it into the system so wondering if that may be the reason the appointment has been changed again.

RavenT · 18/01/2024 12:05

Just a follow up on my earlier post about difficulties in arranging an appointment which was requested for within 2 days! I

I liaised with them via the journal which I found quite frustrating, and in the end had one on a Saturday which I had said I would have to take my son to (all ok).

At no point did I know what the appointment was about, which I found quite stressful! It just said to 'agree new commitments'.

Anyway, after feeling really frustrated with the journal system and the helpline (not very helpful lol), on the Saturday a couple of hours before my appointment my 'coach' rang me. She was super nice, and said there was no need to come in as the matter was minor. Apparently my employer had told HMRC about my December pay late (10th Jan) and therefore I was registered as earning no money in December (even though I had been paid). She said to therefore expect a moderated payments to reflect this, which I had already noticed the week before.

She also said I have no idea why someone just didn't look into this and let you know, instead of asking you to come in! She was really friendly and helpful. Call probably took 10 mins max. Such a contrast to what I felt had been a frustrating process beforehand trying to arrange the appointment and find out what it was about!

Snickerdoodles19 · 18/01/2024 15:04

I chose not to migrate over to UC, TC was supposed to end on Saturday 13th Jan, I checked my bank this morning and the have paid me my normal 4 weekly pay which they shouldn’t have so now I will definitely have incurred an overpayment.
Tried to look on my tax credit account but that has already been closed so now I’ll have to wait for the letter to come.

Imissthesummer · 18/01/2024 15:48

Just had a letter from tax credits saying I owe them £78, how does this get paid? Do they take it back through UC payments?

Gaffygoose · 18/01/2024 16:12

Snicker....
My deadline is 21st but, like yourself, I don't think I'll be migrating over.
Did your TC end on the actual migration date (hence you can't get into your tax credits account)?

Snickerdoodles19 · 18/01/2024 16:53

Hi, no the migration date was 13th January but the TC account didn’t end until today when the made the TC payment which I shouldn’t have really gotten, I was able to access my TC app until today.
Im guessing the closed claim letter will come in the next couple of weeks from them, I’m annoyed because I know now that I will have gotten over payment and it’s just not something that I want hanging over my head at all.

Babyroobs · 18/01/2024 16:53

Imissthesummer · 18/01/2024 15:48

Just had a letter from tax credits saying I owe them £78, how does this get paid? Do they take it back through UC payments?

Yes.

Jellykat · 18/01/2024 18:53

Well as im snowed in today so my appointment was eventually over zoom, hooray!
However although i had written my need to cancel in my journal this morn, it took me so long to find a number to call. The UC helpline were useless!

I have seasonal work, with Jan- April being the quietest... my income figures for TC will run up until my claim last week (as opposed to 5th April). Meaning i'll have had an overpayment! which theyll want me to repay over the quietest quarter of the year.

Am gainfully self employed, but my minimum income floor is so high imo, that after a year she said i'll either have to stop claiming, or cease my self employment and look for full time work. Ridiculous really, because i earn my min inc floor July- Oct.
The idea of giving up everything ive worked for and enjoy doing, to qualify for an additional £40 a week in UC, nope that isnt going to happen... I'll stop claiming next Jan!

JanglyBeads · 18/01/2024 20:05

Does anyone want a new thread?

colouringindoors · 18/01/2024 20:14

yes please

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