Universal credit managed migration thread

[ChristmasCatBells]

Anyone else waiting for a migration notice this year?
Looks like they are planning to move people on tax credits only onto universal credit this year but haven't released any detailed timetables about areas.
Thought it might be useful to share experiences and information on here for those affected.

Thank you for explaining @Bromptotoo , the real-time adjustments seem much better.
It’s so different to tax credits, definitely going to wait until after Christmas I think.

@BlessedBeTheFruitCake I found the change over very easy, although wasn't even going to bother as I'd only been paid £5 a week this year since starting anew role.. It was completely worth it, I receive more UC due to being on a legacy benefit IE tax credits and then got a large payment of almost £500 from CTC as apparently they had been paying me wrong all year which is most useful.

Glad your experience was positive @Singleandproud hopefully ours will be straightforward too. On paper it looks like we’ll actually be better off but will have to wait and see.

@BlessedBeTheFruitCake Would you ming confirming the date on top right of the letter you received, trying to figure out if they are now giving only 2 months as before they were providing 4 months from the date on the letter.

@Babyroobs Can you or someone please confirm if i get paid on the 11th of every month for the last month shifts i-e 1st January to 31 January i will get paid on 11th of Feb, when is the best to apply and submit application of migration from TC to UC, TIA

Right hand side date was 18th October, claim by date is 19th January.

@BlessedBeTheFruitCake oh thanks so still 3 months from the date on the letter.

@NewUserName23 Thanks, you got 4 months then not sure why some people only getting 2 months some 3 and some still getting 4.

Hello, could I ask a quick question,.... if anyone can help? :)

Just put my application in.

Lone parent to a primary age DS. ExH not on the scene, no other help/support. I work part time to fit in with school hours.

First thing it said is 'As part of your application you agree to looking for additional work' or similar.

I currently work in school hours so I don't need to claim for childcare costs. Cover for school holidays is already difficult enough!

Will they insist I immediately start looking for extra work?

Thanks!

I think it is based on earnings rather than hours. Ask at your appointment. I work 18.5 hours, single parent, 2 primary aged DC. I dont need to look for extra work.

Thanks for that quick response, appreciated.

Hi Everyone! Just received the migration letter today and have to apply before 7th of February. Does this mean i can even apply on the 6th Feb or even 7th Feb ? Also, i get paid on the 11th of every month for the previous month work i-e 1st Jan to 31st Jan work, i will get paid on the 11th Feb. Please can you advise what date should i apply as i am planning to apply closest to the due date which is 7th Feb.

My Child Tax credit Payments will be 17th November - 15th December and 12th January.

Any helpful advice would be very much appreciated.

Especially
@Babyroobs

I think i should apply for UC on the 13th January so that i can get the Tax credit payment on the 12th Jan and then first UC payment on the 20th of February. If i get paid on the 11th of each month and sometimes on the 10th & 9th due to Bank holiday etc, i think i am safe from getting 2 payments in 1 assessment period ? Correct @Babyroobs ?

Just been reading on another thread about how the govt want to monitor bank accounts of those in receipt of UC to check fraudulent activity. To be done by AI apparently!

Has anyone heard anything regarding lump sum backpack causing problems?
I will only be eligible for UC for the year transitional protection due to savings however as I work in public sector we get a lump sum of bsckpay normally in November as I understand it now UC will count that all as earnings meaning I will no longer be eligible and I can't apply again as I wouldn't be eligible afterwards, in which case I won't get a full year's protection.

Anyone any experience or info?

@ChristmasCatBells Some employers offer to spread the back pay over the remaining months of the year for exactly this reason. Maybe check if yours does?

I get direct payments from the Council disability team to provide respite for my children. These go into a seperate bank account in my name. Will Universal credit treat this as being my money for savings purposes and will it count as income?

@ChristmasCatBells this exact thing ages just happened to me so if @Candlestickchic is right and you can get your employer to do this, I’d def try.
I explained in my journal what had happened: pay award backdated to April, paid in October but they just replied that UC was based on the earnings for that month, irrespective of the reason. I had no idea so lost out massively 😭

@Rummikub yes, I’ve seen this too. Even with nothing to hide this just feels awfully intrusive.

@HuminaHumina so do you also have savings so can't reapply? Im sorry you have lost out seems crazy that they dont have any mechanism to protect from this, it must occur frequently.
I guess I could ask at work but pretty sure they don't offer this and would have preferred not to discuss this with payroll staff who I work with often.

@Candlestickchic thanks for the suggestion might have to ask next year but I don't think my workplace does this.

@ChristmasCatBells no only the backpay bit for me sorry. It was just a kicker when I realised that they’d ignore the fact that I was still on tax credits when I earned that money. All they were interested in was that I was paid it once on UC. Gutted. I mean, I obviously got the actual back pay in my wages but will lose 55p in every pound of it from my UC payment this month. I was going to use that lump sum on house repairs but now it’ll have to supplement the loss of UC and go on bills. So hard to get a leg up on UC. I hate it.

Can some of the back pay me put into pension as AVC and so ignored for UC purposes?

@Rummikub I was wondering about that, not sure how long they take to process and we don't get much notice of when we get the backpay.

Could it be done retrospectively or only current months pay is key question.

Is everyone being moved before April2024 that's on child and working tax credit? Thinking ahead everyone should of had a letter by Feb 2024 for two months notice if that's the case.