MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that

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we continue to call out the bullshit peddled by MLMs and the scam artists on the fringes who making money from coaching and pretend certificates

Ah yes, Insta stories, I always forget about those. Thank you @meatbaseddessert

She has obviously encountered a tricky atmosphere in the office. I can’t help wondering if her going off sick immediately has pissed some people off. I reckon she will be out of that job by the end of next week. She’s spent so long off sick from the NHS and so long in the NHS environment before going off sick that I doubt she is very flexible and good at adjusting and probably crumbled at the first demand.

She hasn’t a hope if she returns to botting. She has no potential customers or recruits and zero potential to attract anyone. The tumble weed blowing through her social media should be a warning to her. Some shark will sign her up all the same. I reckon she will take the summer off and launch her “new thing” after she’s had a good long lie down from the c.30 hours she’s worked in the last year and a bit 🙄

She doesn’t mention being a nail technician any more …

Nurse has altered and changed the name of her manifesting page. She’s slanted it towards her therapy in a sure sign she has quit or is about to quit the new job she manifested just a few weeks ago.

She invited people to DM her for more information on Insta (as she has limited comments) so asked her some very standard (and polite) questions about her professional body accreditations, insurance to practice, registration with ICO, level of training, supervision. These are very standard questions. Instead of answering them she blocked me. So that’s telling.

Unlikely, to move to another sponsor I think you effectively have to start again as a new fbo, so you would lose whatever ranking your in.

Nahhh I honestly don't think they do! It would be considered toxic, negative! I only stumbled across these when I was researching the company i joined. And it opened my eyes 👀 to lot of the misconduct by reps in the industry.

Ubers, back to one surname, I'm blatantly being nosy, if her marriage is over I wonder how much flp had to do with it?

@kittykitty007 I think Uber is very single-minded and happy to exploit people and lie to them in order to achieve what she has in FLP, though this has been done with a thin veneer of girl next door niceness. I am sure that as soon as Mr Uber finished painting the last skirting board his usefulness expired.

Over the years I’ve come across quite a few people who have been damaged by Uber. My assessment is that her relationships are short-lived because she is difficult and out for herself and it’s these “qualities” that ends relationships but also have got her so far in FLP (though ruthlessness won’t prevent the decline in FLP’s fortunes from affecting her now). The only influence FLP might have had is that she over-stretched herself on the holiday home at the same time as her FLP income faltered, so that probably put a strain on things.

Some of the “top” bots definitely do look at these threads but they are very keen to dismiss the contents as rubbish and “negative” and ideally to make sure that their followers don’t see any anti MLM content anywhere. I am sure Yawn checks in, she definitely started editing her FB posts and removing doctored weight loss photos that didn’t make sense on her “weight loss timeline” immediately after it was discussed here. It was just too much of a coincidence. There have been other occasions too.

I remember Uber jokingly calling Yawn ‘Brows’ somewhere (when it was Yawn’s nickname) and at the time I thought yes they keep an eye on these threads

We've seen the 'Law of Reaction' in action enough times on these threads to safely say some bots, Yawn included, do keep an eye on them.

@kittykitty007 Those of us who have been posting for a while know that Bots definitely read these threads. Some bots have even posted on them (we have been compared to a terrorist organisation, called “scum” and described as “middle-aged keyboard warriors with screwed up little faces) and others have sent private messages to posters in an attempt to intimidate them (how well did that go, eh?). 😉

These threads were mentioned at a Forever Living event a few years ago - I think it may have been by Uber during a training session. Whoever it was said something along the lines of “… and Mumsnet think they’re going to get us shut down.” From what Forever escapees have told us before, bots are alive to these threads and tell their followers not to read them - which is a bit like Dexter telling Didi not to press the red button.

My botted ex had been warned about a coven of jealous haterz on MN.

Ah ok I'm genuinely surprised! I thought they'd steer well clear!

They have to be careful of course to tread the line between warning minions not to look at anything negative and actually drawing their attention to threads such as these

so you might see references to ‘online haters’ or ‘jealous keyboard warriors’ without specific mention of where these are

and they provide a nice menu of responses to bots who look at something ‘negative’ or are asked perfectly reasonable questions by a friend of family member

• they probably failed themselves in NWM
• they are jealous of you
• why are they attacking someone who is just trying to build her own business?
• cut negheads out of your life and block them
• prove them all wrong by bring successful woop woop

i see Ubers house is on the market and could her sister have already moved ? Just looking at recent sales

Looks like Nurse has quit, announced on her TikTok!

how on earth does she think she can support herself and her son with new ‘business’??

The manifesting is in overdrive, she doesn't have to do anything, the successful business will land in her lap. Oh ye of little faith...

Silly me

Summary
She's had enough of being told what to do and working for someone else
She has a dream of running her own business
She has manifested her own business

Uber clearly having to massively downsize her house based on her most recent post

Sounds like she can't sell the holiday home. They've probably put so much money in to it and not been able to let it out enough, so selling it would mean they'd lose loads.

Maybe soon-to-be ex has had a say too and won't sell.

The holiday home is going to be too expensive for locals tbh and not really practical to live in every day. Tbh it's an absolute nightmare for parking anywhere in the old town which limits who would want it.

I imagine it would be a big investment for someone who wants it as a holiday let and it doesn't have a good track record of being rented out.

The first of the downsizing begins!

Also, anyone wanting to invest in a holiday let will want to see what returns it’s previously generated.

Uber’s white elephant house was such a mistake. In theory great, pretty house, nice place and she probably thought the healthy UK holiday market was more than temporary. She was all loved up with her builder when the over-spec-ed plans were hatched probably. The reality is, as others have said, that it’s the wrong house for a holiday in an awkward location and the lack of any parking probably puts most people off - it would definitely put me off even if it was priced more reasonably. Imagine paying top dollar and then having to drive around for ages trying to find somewhere to park each time you come back to your a holiday accommodation in a popular town that is probably jam packed in the summer.

Who was her target market? Couples (too much house, no parking). Families (no outside space, too pristine, no parking, nowhere to dump the clobber). Groups (not practical, no parking, wrong town)? And too expensive. I agree @SnoogyWoo , impossible to sell at a viable price too, to an investor or a local. She’s going to have it as a millstone around her neck for years and it’s not going to be cheap to maintain either.

I wonder if it’s what caused the problems. He probably wants his contribution to both properties financially acknowledged in the split even if the short marriage means they basically depart the relationship with what they arrived with iyswIm.