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MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that

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Spongebobette · 02/06/2023 15:22

we continue to call out the bullshit peddled by MLMs and the scam artists on the fringes who making money from coaching and pretend certificates

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Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 15:48

I just looked there’s a house on the same street as Ubers, downstairs bedroom bedroom and bathroom and bigger terraces for half the price.

it’s not as pretty but I don’t want a designer sofa on holiday, I want a downstairs shower

Spongebobette · 18/06/2023 17:22

Stop what you are doing everyone, Nurse has put the most exciting video ever on TikTok

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YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 17:38

@Howsimplywonderful exactly. She has made the classic mistake of treating an investment property like a home and filling it with the fittings and furniture she’d want in her own home. That brass bath she has put in the bathroom retails at well over £3k alone (I know he will have paid trade prices but still). The house either sits empty and well preserved while she loses money or she rents out the place cheaply and watches the inevitable wear and tear (and worse) happen to very expensive fixtures and fittings that ex-DH won’t be sourcing for her anymore. She’s also got to maintain a Victorian house that will inevitably have things go wrong whether empty or occupied, and she’s got to do that from a distance and pay through the nose for local builders/plumbers/electricians who see a monied second home owner and name their price!

YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 17:45

@Spongebobette what’s the latest TikTok about? Has she left the fridge door open or lost her favourite biro? Can you sum it up (and thanks for sitting through it, from all of us here!).

Or is she doing Freudian Analysis with Crystals on her DFS sofa? Or has she managed to manifest a life, any life, not just a best one?

Spongebobette · 18/06/2023 18:12

YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 17:45

@Spongebobette what’s the latest TikTok about? Has she left the fridge door open or lost her favourite biro? Can you sum it up (and thanks for sitting through it, from all of us here!).

Or is she doing Freudian Analysis with Crystals on her DFS sofa? Or has she managed to manifest a life, any life, not just a best one?

Brace yourself

jelly

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YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 18:17

Jelly? As a mental health cure? Manifesting a trifle? What she has between her ears? I presume this is among her “professional” content.

Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 18:57

I’m guessing that Castle will be spending the summer in a camper van

She will get her parents to drive hers over probably.

MLMsuperfan · 18/06/2023 19:10

Found Nurse on TikTok. Not seen her for ages due to the way she does influencing by locking down her socials.

I love the way the video opens with "I know this is going to be the most boringest video ever". Don't ever change Nurse. As a teacher once said to me "if you're not interested why do you think we would be?"

Twentytwentyhindsight · 18/06/2023 19:16

@MLMsuperfan "I know this is going to be the most boringest video ever" - at least you can't accuse her of the usual MLM hype, oversell and untruths.
That is an accurate and succinct description of her offering, well done Nurse!

YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 19:25

If you really want a traumatic time on TikTok then Weird Willy has published some full length shots of himself in biker leathers. He looks like an inner tube that’s really had it. It’s ruined my Sunday.

kittykitty007 · 18/06/2023 19:27

YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 19:25

If you really want a traumatic time on TikTok then Weird Willy has published some full length shots of himself in biker leathers. He looks like an inner tube that’s really had it. It’s ruined my Sunday.

Remind me who weird Willy please I forgot!

YouOKHun · 18/06/2023 19:37

@kittykitty007 First name same as the oldest of the two princes, but just the first syllable, and second name same as the singer whose last name was Como. Hope that helps!

Spongebobette · 18/06/2023 20:13

MLMsuperfan · 18/06/2023 19:10

Found Nurse on TikTok. Not seen her for ages due to the way she does influencing by locking down her socials.

I love the way the video opens with "I know this is going to be the most boringest video ever". Don't ever change Nurse. As a teacher once said to me "if you're not interested why do you think we would be?"

The previous one was fascinating too, about making a list if you are feeling overwhelmed and how she made a list with clean the washing machine at the top resulted in her cleaning the washing machine

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meatbaseddessert · 18/06/2023 21:40

FFS if the pinnacle of Nurses mental health support is 'if you feel overwhelmed then make a list...but don't put more than three things on it or you'll feel overwhelmed... and then do those three things' I'm thinking her business might not bring in the income she needs.

Spongebobette · 19/06/2023 08:09

Especially if she’s giving the top advice away for free 🤣🤣

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meatbaseddessert · 19/06/2023 09:02

Next in the series. 'If you feel depressed try cheering up a bit.'

Howsimplywonderful · 19/06/2023 11:46

I think that castle drew a picture of a camper van so has spoiled castles surprise.

Will they buy a new one or get her parents to bring hers over

Do Mr castles family not visit them in Spain at all

Spongebobette · 19/06/2023 12:22

Oh it will be a new one - big and impressive with all the shiny toys
She’s about ready for a big new purchase or rental - the hit she received from the last one has worn off - and we will be treated to a travel blog of her and her family’s crazy adventures in it

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YouOKHun · 19/06/2023 12:32

meatbaseddessert · 19/06/2023 09:02

Next in the series. 'If you feel depressed try cheering up a bit.'

And the episode after that, “If you feel anxious, don’t be, everything is fine, just think positively 💪🏻’

I suspect Nurse has done a few short courses about various therapeutic approaches while nursing which she thinks makes her “qualified” in CBT, systemic therapy, Compassion Focussed Therapy etc, but what she’s actually been doing is using some basic techniques to suggest to patients in the community rather than delivering therapy in secondary care in a formal way for which she’d need to be specifically post graduate qualified. In IAPT (primary care talking therapies) she would need a relevant core profession (which she seems to have) then she would train to deliver “step 2” behavioural interventions for milder difficulties, then she’d need a post grad diploma or MSc to deliver step 3 high intensity therapy (CBT and other approaches). I was a HI therapist in the NHS for quite a while so I know what the NHS route is.

Many therapists do have her MHN background and it’s a very valuable core profession but it isn’t “NHS qualified therapist” in itself. She hasn’t been working for over a year and I expect she wasn’t at the real sharp end when she was. She may have used CBT techniques to make suggestions but she definitely hasn’t grasped it at the most basic level if she is making the suggestions she is. if she has got the qualifications why aren’t we seeing them? Private practice isn’t the easy ride she’s looking for, get it wrong and you could be in serious trouble. Just because someone has the money to pay doesn’t mean they are not vulnerable. If they harm themselves she’s going to need to have her house in order (insurance, supervision, clinical notes, risk management, GDPR compliance - no NHS system to help and the clinical responsibility is seen as the same whether face to face or online. Therapist isn’t a protected title and that’s why finding people in private practice is a minefield so she can do what she’s doing sadly, but part of proper training is knowing your limits and what is beyond your training and skills. It’s to keep clients and therapists safe.

it’s all very well if she is spouting rubbish to no audience, it’s not so OK if people come to her feeling comforted by her former NHS role and she then makes vulnerable people feel worse when their severe depression is met with “try a gratitude mindset” or their OCD is reinforced with “think positively”. I still wonder if she is insured. At the end of the day I don’t think she is that smart and is wondering into something that isn’t as cosy as she thinks.

Angrymum22 · 19/06/2023 12:36

I thought Mr Castle and older turret drove over to Spain in the camper van when they moved.

Howsimplywonderful · 19/06/2023 12:37

No, it’s still back at the castles being maintained by castles
parents.

they drove over in her truck

fromdownwest · 19/06/2023 16:10

Schedule has been put up for their Thailand free trip!
Sounds like utter hell!

Taking into account it is a 12 hour flight!

Arrive 28th Sept
29th Sept Training day
30th Sept Training day
1st Oct free time and Farewell party
2nd October - departure day

So 24 hours flight for 24 hours of your 'own' time. Utter insanity

YouOKHun · 19/06/2023 18:50

@fromdownwest that sounds an absolute nightmare. Not cheap either as there are plenty of miscellaneous costs associated with travelling that FLP won’t cover such as jabs, insurance, airport parking, taxis, food etc etc (and probably a load I haven’t thought of). I suppose the pressure is on to be enthusiastic but some of the bots must want to hook out if it surely?

Spongebobette · 19/06/2023 19:37

Spongebobette · 18/06/2023 20:13

The previous one was fascinating too, about making a list if you are feeling overwhelmed and how she made a list with clean the washing machine at the top resulted in her cleaning the washing machine

and now we are being treated to a breathlessly excited unboxing of ……

shampoo

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Howsimplywonderful · 19/06/2023 20:23

I thought castle was going to unveil her new plan/camping van today.

her poor toddler

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