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MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that

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Spongebobette · 02/06/2023 15:22

we continue to call out the bullshit peddled by MLMs and the scam artists on the fringes who making money from coaching and pretend certificates

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NormalForNuneaton · 12/07/2023 21:30

It's quite telling that on her Insta story Yawn says that she doesn't "share (her) story enough" ... it just shows that her churn rate is so high that her turnover of followers must change every few months as that's how often she shares her story (together with the slight tweaks and changes to suit her).

MarchXX · 13/07/2023 00:04

meatbaseddessert · 12/07/2023 20:16

She's just joined some kids MLM bizniss page it seems.
She hasn't actually joined a new MLM.

This new MLM is very coy about promoting any information on its web page about selling or recruiting but does talk in glowing terms about becoming a "PARTNER and join a truly PERSONAL business, where people are always celebrated as PARTNERS". It urges you to "please speak with the person who directed you to this website, email HQ at...." It should be a red flag to anyone who looks at their page for information, if they are not transparent on their page, its suspicious.

MarchXX · 13/07/2023 00:20

Looking at the new MLM's fb page, it looks like Kleeneze stopped recruiting sellers (direct marketing) and one of their sellers set up this MLM to continue the MLM model. He has recruited other previous direct sellers for Kleeneze. The fb page seems to suggest they've been going five years. Kleeneze seems to be selling direct online, I couldn't find any mention of recruitment on their website. If I'm incorrect about this, let me know.

NormalForNuneaton · 13/07/2023 08:09

According to Castle's Insta stories they're picking up their new motor home today (she had to go shopping for stuff to go in it ...of course!)

What's wrong with the one parked in their driveway?

BSintolerant · 13/07/2023 08:32

Words of wisdom from Sovereign Sleaze:

Washing suitceses full of clothes is a total waste of time within that 3 hours that a launderette does it you can make a ton of money...

If you have financial freedom it's a waste of time and if you don't you should be working instead....

There are so many things people do instead of getting ahead...

Doesn’t Sleaze realise that when most people do their washing they don’t have to sit in front of the washing machine watching it go round and round until it’s done? It’s possible that I’m missing something, and one day I will suffer all manner of consequences arising from not watching my washing as it spins around, counting the bubbles, and listening to the pitch of the spins and whirring: consequences which will make my life difficult and uncomfortable. Who knows?

meatbaseddessert · 13/07/2023 10:29

MarchXX · 13/07/2023 00:20

Looking at the new MLM's fb page, it looks like Kleeneze stopped recruiting sellers (direct marketing) and one of their sellers set up this MLM to continue the MLM model. He has recruited other previous direct sellers for Kleeneze. The fb page seems to suggest they've been going five years. Kleeneze seems to be selling direct online, I couldn't find any mention of recruitment on their website. If I'm incorrect about this, let me know.

Weird isn't it. Couldn't find anything about products just tacky pictures of Kleeneze type catalogues of products like 'One Big Slipper' and 'thing on a stick to apply foot cream' Confused

meatbaseddessert · 13/07/2023 10:53

NNN has decided. Coaching academy... own portal.. membership for life.. amazing content.. gets clients.

fitgirl26 · 13/07/2023 11:24

BSintolerant · 13/07/2023 08:32

Words of wisdom from Sovereign Sleaze:

Washing suitceses full of clothes is a total waste of time within that 3 hours that a launderette does it you can make a ton of money...

If you have financial freedom it's a waste of time and if you don't you should be working instead....

There are so many things people do instead of getting ahead...

Doesn’t Sleaze realise that when most people do their washing they don’t have to sit in front of the washing machine watching it go round and round until it’s done? It’s possible that I’m missing something, and one day I will suffer all manner of consequences arising from not watching my washing as it spins around, counting the bubbles, and listening to the pitch of the spins and whirring: consequences which will make my life difficult and uncomfortable. Who knows?

He does talk absolute shite doesn't he? It just shows how dim some of his followers are that they lap up the barely literate rambling bollocks he comes out with 🤷‍♀️

MaireadMcSweeney · 13/07/2023 11:47

meatbaseddessert · 13/07/2023 10:53

NNN has decided. Coaching academy... own portal.. membership for life.. amazing content.. gets clients.

She's joining one or setting one up?!

meatbaseddessert · 13/07/2023 12:03

@MaireadMcSweeney joining one.

Sugarplum48 · 13/07/2023 12:04

So yawn has qualified for Delhi. A 6 day trip, 2 days of which you are travelling so that 4 days of jet lag. Surely if you go somewhere as far flung as India you'd want a much longer stay?? These "trips" are just really unrealistic. But she's thin and getting a new bonus so what do we know!@

Shortpoet · 13/07/2023 12:10

I know several people who did coaching academy who are far more well connected, switched-on, and hard working than NNN.

They all said the course was good, but none of them were able to make it into a permanent career and have all now all gone back to having a job.

YouOKHun · 13/07/2023 12:21

Sugarplum48 · 13/07/2023 12:04

So yawn has qualified for Delhi. A 6 day trip, 2 days of which you are travelling so that 4 days of jet lag. Surely if you go somewhere as far flung as India you'd want a much longer stay?? These "trips" are just really unrealistic. But she's thin and getting a new bonus so what do we know!@

@Sugarplum48 it sounds like he’ll doesn’t it? She hid herself away for a big part of the Bali trip which, by the look of her, was because there was a problem like sickness. I wonder how she will style out being able to shit through the eye of a needle this time?

BSintolerant · 13/07/2023 14:00

Nurse would be better off investing in therapy with a qualified therapist rather than spending thousands on a coach who will teach her how to be a coach. I’m not being sarcastic or trying to be facetious (for once) as she really needs help.

YouOKHun · 13/07/2023 19:02

@BSintolerant you are absolutely right, she is totally floundering. I think she knows her life is going off course but she is pinning her hopes of recovery on the very thing that has damaged her since that first foray into network marketing.

Her mother and her friends are not supportive, they just driving her further and further down the wrong road by liking every sorry post. I notice her siblings seem more together and I wonder if they worry about her. Someone she trusts needs to be brutally honest with her. There’s a child who may suffer if she loses the plot altogether or gets rinsed beyond a recoverable point by one of the many MLM sharks that prey on people like her.

Howsimplywonderful · 13/07/2023 19:29

I see castle has bought a new motor home so her parents can go on holidays with her I.e look after her kids.

Anyone want to place a bet which motor home the youngest castle and middle castle will end up in 😂

Who is cleaning the castle (it’s not let but they’re gone for weeks) Bruv ?

Spongebobette · 13/07/2023 20:46

I think nurse fell out with some family members over the IVF years ago so she has form on ignoring advice and being stubborn

and because she ended up having a baby she thinks that belief/ manifestation/ law of attraction actually worked for her

so now she’ll just keep doubling down as she’ll never admit she’s on completely the wrong path

having her hair done, getting a tattoo, going on holiday… lots of displacement activity (and spending) going on

I don’t understand what this coaching academy is and how much it’s costing her?

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YouOKHun · 13/07/2023 21:02

@Spongebobette I think she’s doing the life coaching course at CA which is £3997 plus VAT (if I’ve found the right company as there are probably loads of them with the same name). They say for self funders it’s reduced to £2997 plus VAT.

she’s just done a Live about it. She’s completely delusional.

I believe her rounds of IVF were privately funded. Perhaps the siblings have to stand on their own two feet while the parents bankroll Nurse in the hope that it will make her happy.

meatbaseddessert · 13/07/2023 21:15

I've found the course. It's £5k. Reduced from 10k apparently.
Run by the woman she's tagged/mentioned before in her stories and she mentions her first name in her live.

Spongebobette · 13/07/2023 21:21

Wow that’s a big chunk of change for someone like her. And money down the drain

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YouOKHun · 13/07/2023 21:44

Oh wow @meatbaseddessert I tried to find that woman but couldn’t. That’s a serious amount of cash to throw away. I wonder whose money it is she’s wasting?

Angrymum22 · 13/07/2023 22:33

YouOKHun · 13/07/2023 12:21

@Sugarplum48 it sounds like he’ll doesn’t it? She hid herself away for a big part of the Bali trip which, by the look of her, was because there was a problem like sickness. I wonder how she will style out being able to shit through the eye of a needle this time?

I had a quiet snigger at Yawn’s Delhi post. My DS went on a sports tour to India in February. He was the only person in the group to not get Delhi belly. He ate the same as everyone else and wasn’t particularly careful, but our family does have form for guts of steel. I only know two people who have visited India and suffered from constipation, my father and my son. Even my boss who is Indian and lived there until he was 25 has problems when he goes home.
I would imagine if Yawn struggled with Bali it will be 10x worse in India.
I wonder if they decided not to have vaccines for Bali (£200 per person because NHS no longer pays for them) and it backfired, so to speak.
Most of India is not really package holiday destination like Bali.

meatbaseddessert · 14/07/2023 03:43

@YouOKHun Google the name nurse mentioned (girls version 4 letters) and 'life coaching' and she's pretty much the second linked in page that comes up and the first Instagram page.

Spongebobette · 14/07/2023 04:05

if this is an indication of the ‘coaching’ Nurse is receiving, no wonder she’s so deluded: Through money mindset work, I trained myself to fully believe that money would continue to pour inI released my beliefs around making money being a struggle and instead, replaced that narrative with “my business continues to grow month on month” I created new beliefs that I could make money doing something I loved, and it wouldn’t take me years to achieve this. What you fully believe something, this then becomes what your experience.
If I didn’t believe in the future success of my business, I would have continued to stay in my comfort zone and in the safety net of my job”

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Wintersgirl · 14/07/2023 09:26

The WHO has placed Aloe Vera as carciogenic, here's a brief paragraph from the article.
However, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) categorised the plant as posing a 2B risk after a two-year study in rats found those who drank water containing aloe vera extract were more likely to develop bowel cancer
Not good new for the bots...

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