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MLM Bot Watch 51: the Cult of multilevel marketing

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BSintolerant · 22/05/2019 18:17

Lies, creative accounting and the Law of Reaction. Network marketers, we’re onto you - and so is the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

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Spongebobette · 24/05/2019 16:29

Good heavens that’s deranged

He’s being anti Semitic again too

spanfan · 24/05/2019 18:03

Never mind they were despotic tyrannical and murdered their own people.

It was American dollars?? Okay then. Someone take his phone off him.

MoominMantra · 24/05/2019 21:49

One of my fb friends got sucked into an mlm called Stella & Dot - I'm pretty sure it is, right?

CodenameVillanelle · 24/05/2019 22:25

Yep that's a MLM

Collywibbles · 24/05/2019 22:36

Although S&D are not operating in the UK anymore. They pulled out in April.

Whiterangey · 25/05/2019 07:01

I've been reading on Facebook from some of the people who were high up in advocare. One top bot had had to put her house up for sale, can't afford the mortgage now she will be earning absolutely nothing. Their whole business topped away from them in an instant with no warning.

I know people lose their jobs with no warning, turn up for work to find the company had gone bust. They have transferable skills. If you worked a retail job then a potential employer knows you know how to deal with customers, that kind of thing.

Coming out of mlm you have nothing, well nothing an employer would want. Top bots with 10 years worth of botting who are used to having minions do what they tell them to do aren't going to do well with a boss.

If you search for advocare on Facebook it's quite interesting. You also get bots being grateful they are with the mlm they are with as their mlm would never do that to them.

Sunshineandshowers81 · 25/05/2019 08:20

And yet they still think they are 'independent business owners' rather than sales reps

ClubSandwich · 25/05/2019 09:03

Oooh there’s an exciting opportunity for someone to win “there” very own vanilla shake and shaker over on my FLbots page. Only one person has entered so far. Her mum

JasperRising · 25/05/2019 10:14

Have been musing about whether there is a negative effect for business that happen to have bots as customers?

I have seen personal trainers and speaking coaches (legit ones not ones who only do the MLM circuit) being thanked on bots pages (because that is how they do social media). I have to admit that my automatic reaction is to suspect they are at least customers if not bots themselves and to think I probably wouldn't use their services. I have then done digging and realised some of them are just being used for their services but it did make me wonder if a bit recommendation can be a double edged sword.

MLMsuperfan · 25/05/2019 10:24

New documentary about the collapse of LuLaRoe in the US

Lizilondon · 25/05/2019 12:07

There's an article about Valentus in the Sunday Times this week.
See mlm lies exposed on facebook. Should be interesting, asking for old reps for information.

BSintolerant · 25/05/2019 12:39

The LuLaRoe documentary is damning! Very interesting that the FTC ordered them to change their bonus scheme so that it could only be awarded for sales of inventory and not purchases made by bots. I wonder if that applies to all MLM schemes in America and whether similar rules apply in other countries? The change in bonus scheme has really screwed up some of the top bots. One of them is selling her house. It’s only a matter of time before we see the effects of reduced bonus cheques on Forever Fibbing bots.

And just when you think you’ve heard it all, a CBS report popped up on YouTube after the documentary which said that sellers were encouraged to sell their breast milk so they could buy more stock!

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Whiterangey · 25/05/2019 13:08

I don't feel much sympathy for the mentor in the documentary. She was making multiple 6 figures a year while 99.6% of the rest were losing money so she could make it. I've heard of at least one suicide that may have been as a result of llr debt.

I watched the change in bonus structure when it happened. Uplines had been encouraging downlines to spend thousands on clothes they would never sell just to get their bonuses. When the structure changed to what downlines sold the uplines suddenly found their bonuses cut substantially. It was funny.

So many mentors and top people in Llr have now left, I doubt they have as many consultants left as they say as many have just stopped selling and not officially left.

SCM79 · 25/05/2019 13:53

I really need to work out who Yawn is?!

MLMsuperfan · 25/05/2019 14:12

Yawns private at the moment so nothing to see.

SCM79 · 25/05/2019 14:24

Thanks MLMsuperfan. It is pure nosiness as I think I have the rest of them identified. There is one who has done well in previous years that has done well but got reduced CB the other week that doesn't seem to have been mentioned anywhere. She is close to Insolvency Bot.

Youarebeingwatched · 25/05/2019 14:39

shuffles out from Lurkers’ Corner

Not sure if any of you are familiar with the absolutely fantastic Behind The Bastards podcast, well anyway, this week’s bastard is Gary Young of Young Living.

www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/part-one-gary-young-the-fake-doctor-who-drowned-his-own-baby.htm

As you were!

scuttles back to Lurkers’ Corner and hides behind broadsheet newspaper with eye holes cut out

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2019 15:04

@SCM79 - if you mean the one who got a CB cheque for $31K, that's Lanzabot Bot.

SCM79 · 25/05/2019 15:08

@Twentytwentyhindsight I'm not sure which one that is! So many to catch up on. The one I am thinking of only got 7.6K this year having done much better in the glory years.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2019 15:25

I think I see who you mean- got 8K last year and 78K two years ago. I think she's one of Castle's minions, don't believe we have a bot name for her.

gotmychocolateimgood · 25/05/2019 15:28

Thanks MLM Superfan for posting the LLR link. Really interesting. Such ugly clothes!

SCM79 · 25/05/2019 15:32

That's the one. I think she is pally with Yawn too.

DownThePan · 25/05/2019 16:01

I wonder if Yawn has got herself a secret J.O.B.

Jonsey32 · 25/05/2019 17:07

I’ve got yawn on insta and she’s still mentoring away with new recruits.

Not sure what all the lockdown on fb is about but wonder if it might be because of this thread?

fromdownwest · 25/05/2019 17:09

The whole Castle clan scenario is all so odd.

They are now visiting they house they grew up in, as a family. They are plastering family stories all over Insta. Little or No FL references.

Family melt down?!

I can’t see them sticking at FL for more than a few months.