MLM Bot Watch 51: the Cult of multilevel marketing

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Lies, creative accounting and the Law of Reaction. Network marketers, we’re onto you - and so is the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

I think Yawn got this trip as she fits the narrative, living & breathing FL. Her distinctive looks mannerisms etc

It could also be that a couple of other higher up bots who actually qualified as Eagle Managers have gone off the radar after getting no/dismal cheques in Stockholm and have not taken up the 'once in a lifetime' chance to fly cattle class to Thailand for three days of concentrated brainwashing.

This would explain Yawn getting the invite in the final day the trips had to be booked. HQ had already factored in the trips, and they need to keep the numbers to stop it looking like they're dead on their arse in the UK.

I wonder which of Lanza, Castle, Tax Bill etc.'s rejected trip Yawn inherited?

Thought the article could've been better. Not in depth enough. They spoke to a top bot to get the £30k a month quite but no quote regarding their huge downline losing money.

Glad it's out there and valentus has been named and shamed.

It's fantastic how much negative press MLM's are getting at the moment.

The journo tried really hard to get evidence to go into further detail. Nobody wanted to talk so she had to make do with what she had unfortunately.

The articles in The Guardian and The Times are excellent. Well done to all those who contributed.

Have any of you contacted your MPs about MLMs?

That makes sense. Those who have spoken or are very brave. I wonder who the 30k a month is? Salon comes to mind. I doubt she is making anywhere near that now.

The 30k a month isn't a current rep, I can't name the person, but I can tell you nobody in Valentus is earning anywhere near 30k.

I'm pleased FL is mentioned in the Guardian article as I think they escaped lightly not being looked into in the recent TV documentary.

FL is one that I feel pops up in the sort of places, and has the type of products, that can target all ages of unsuspecting customers including the elderly. It's also a name that's been around for longer so may be thought of as a "safe" brand.

For example my MIL who is in her 70s bought some aloe gel from a bot at a craft fayre (don't worry I've now told her about MLMs so there's no way she would buy from them again!).

The sort of products sold by Valentus, Younique etc are more likely to appeal to the younger market not so much the elderly.

Someone on this thread said a while ago the FL products are dated. I think this is really true. The packaging is terrible, nobody is interested in aloe Vera, there are so many cheap alternatives.

I have just been baking and my caster sugar is stored in a Tupperware container. Before I married( 43 years this year) some cousins did the parties and I still have some containers

I've just seen that Irish Wonder Woman bot is also going to Thailand/Dallas - she posted about it 3 days before Yawn so was she another last-minute one? (albeit not quite as last-minute or as far down the list as Yawn!!)

She seems to be being pushed forward quite a bit at the moment, for example she spoke on stage at Stockholm (yet her cheque was less than $4.5K), been to visit Uber (and vice-versa) and now being invited to the Eagle Managers retreat.

Is this FL trying to raise the profile of a few UK bots to make it look like they're rising through the ranks to join the ranks of Uber and co?

If the lowly bots don't see any change at the top and no new faces appearing in the Top10 then they won't believe that they can be there too one day.

Bots don't concentrate on the past or even the present, it's always about the future. They are spending money to keep their cc's up now for the future when they are getting 6 figure cheques. They won't have realised how bad things are.

FLP are going to have to do something as people aren't getting promoted and qualifying for incentives. It's things like that which draw new blood in. Not just here in the UK but the whole world.

They are either going to have to make qualifications easier or bring in some new ones.

The age thing is very true. You can't have someone over 40 promoting younique, over 35 would be a push. The makeup, especially the foundation, is so crap that if your skin isn't very young it makes you look 80.

Unfortunately for the mlms which appeal to older people their target market are more likely to know it's all a big scam.

Is new blood they all needed and they're isn't any left.

Whiterangey Younique don't care about the age of their presenters. There's a former black status who jumped ship to Isagenix who was in her mid 40s at least while flogging Younique. Older Younique bots just use filters on their photos.

My biohacker bot has decided that they're going to live longer because, and I quote: "I activate my genetic pathways."
They really don't do science.

Just been looking at the younique reddit page. The scientific fact is not that women over a certain age shouldn't use their foundation, it's that nobody should. So many beautiful woman in the before photos.

I know that big pharma already know the cure for cancer and everything else but are keeping it from us as things like chemo make them more money. (Sarcasm)

Don't they think that if these health claims were true that doctors would tell their patients to use them? Doctors prefer not to give patients medication if there is another option.

It’s interesting to put each mlm name into eBay search and see how many products are on there from ex bots trying to get rid. I think if I remember rightly scentsy had the most followed by FL and Arbonne. Absolutely thousands of pounds of heavily reduced stock

The MLM line on the eBay sales is that they are Chinese fakes. Because the brands are so well known and regarded by the public that people would fake them.

I'm still trying to figure out what they are on about with genetic pathways. The library search function at my university has no answers either. I'd only like to know how they work. Like, do they stop you having/being involved in potentially fatal accidents if they're activated? Because if they only work on things like illnesses then there's not a huge deal to be gained in activating them, especially given how quickly research is developing new and better treatments and potential cures and preventative measures for things like cancer.

ReceiptBot has posted a video of her going Cold Turkey because she's run out of alllll her supplements and Aloe gloop and looks like her world is about to crumble as she feels so wretched without her supply. This is, thus, proof that all the supplements really work!

Just saw on my local events page someone asking info re upcoming fairs.
When I checked her FB she does fm & utility warehouse, where she is asking huns of other NWM to get in touch so they can support each other.

Receipt is a complicated person. Dan it off supplements and is exhausted yet woke up at 6.30 when she didn't need to s she couldn't sleep any longer.

Ran out of all her shakes yet miraculously was making a chocolate shake after she said that. Her hair would go frizzy without her shampoo yet there she is with good hair.

All those supplements are doing is making very expensive wee.

It can't be that healthy to be so reliant on expensive supplements that probably has little proven benefit!

It’s a wonder bots aren’t telling us that these supplements continue working long after they’ve passed through our systems... by entering the sewers and dissolving fatbergs! If the Law of Reaction is anything to go by we’ll see them posting before and after photos of their drains and sewers.