Can I ask how much rent you'd charge in this case?

[justliketheones]

Will try to be as objective as possible and not give away which party I am.

Grown up DS& his wife and one DC. They have a combined income of about £1600. One room, free access to bathroom (when free of course) and kitchen, they have access to things such as milk/bread/if there are crisps/fruit etc but also replace those when they run out. Grown up DD charged nothing to stay although she may start uni in September (not doing anything right now, weekend job). So the money would be to cover extra heating/hot water/ (there's no water bill, just for hot water)/use of room/ some food but anything specific they have to buy/ electricity. Both shower every other day (about 10mins each), DC has small bath every night and of course there's extra washing/toiletries etc. How much a month would you ask for? They pay about £650 in personal bills eg phones, netflix (which everyone has access to) and they pay for the broadband/tv channels/WiFi for the house.

£1600 included CB etc as well.

Or not?

I wouldn’t charge if I could afford not to

I wouldn’t rent one room out to a family of 3 in a million years

Well it really depends on a number of things:
How much extra will the bills cost you?
How long do you want them to stay?
What is the other DD doing while deciding if she may or my not go to university?

Personally, if they're paying for the broadband/TV/Netflix, I'd not bother about the other stuff (after all, heating one additional room is hardly going to break the bank) and encourage them to save what they can for their own place.

@Passthecherrycoke why not? It's not strangers, it's family and if they had nowhere else to go?

Just to be clear - the more being charged, the longer they'll be there and it'll take them longer to save.

Just to be clear - the more being charged, the longer they'll be there and it'll take them longer to save.

Because it’s too many people for 1 bedroom. If it’s temporary for extreme reasons ie homelessness I wouldn’t charge them at all, or charge the incremental costs of them living there ( so very low) but as a long term, commercial arrangement, no way

Sorry didn’t realise it was your son. I think I’d base it on how long they were staying and how much they needed to save, and offer as low rent as possible.

It was a case of extreme measures. Agreement made of up to one year with proof of looking for their own place.

Obviously hopefully not for the year but as a maximum.

So, are you charging them, or not?

How do they provide proof that they're looking? Is it like at the job centre and you can show a screenshot of your searches? Why that weird stipulation?
Will you really turf your grandchild out in a year?
Given the restrictions in place, was there an actual contract in place?

This is so weird. I have so many questions

I think I’d need more details like why are they suddenly living back in the parents house, do they both work? Do they use the living room? Is it very much a temporary arrangement? Do the parents need additional money to cover the extra costs.

£650 seems a huge amount to be paying for personal phones, Netflix & WiFi.

If they are genuinely saving for their own place they need to seriously reduce the £650 for phones etc.

Oh good question @ragwort

Why do you think it would take them a year to find a place? Do they have some super special requirements?

Sorry but they are paying out £650 a MONTH on phones and internet

They need to sort that out that's an absurd amount.

As for rent, do you need it? Because they are never going to be able to afford to move out and furnish a place if they are paying out even more money.

As a priority they need to sort out the money they are wasting. They need to be able to save to leave. They also need to be able to live.

So the £650 odd is paying off a loan they took out to cover bill shortfalls last year, it's phones on contract, it's the WiFi, netflix/prime (which everyone can use), it's paying off a home course one of them did etc. No of course they wouldn't get chucked out for a year but neither party wants to be there any longer ideally. Yes they can go in the living room

The £650 a month is for personal bills, such as phones Netflix and WiFi. Obviously it’s not £650 a month for these 3 items 🤣

And the evidence- not really as dramatic as that, just a check in every now and then that they have been looking at council/private places etc.

I wouldn’t charge them but I’d expect a contribution to housework, some meals, etc.

They do their own washing/ironing, dishes (any dishes that are there) etc.

I had my son and partner for what was supposed to be about 6 months but ended up being about 18 months. They had a bathroom and lounge and use of the the kitchen and bathroom.

Bought their own food and toiletries but used cleaning materials, toilet paper and condiments etc.

Council tax went up as I normally live alone and get 25% discount.
I charged them £350 per month.

If they were younger I would say yes but they have a grown up daughter and need to live with you,why?
And if they haven't sorted themselves out in a year ,the what?
I would want to know if there was debt and how much as if they have a bad credit score they will not be able to move.

No no, the DC is young, there is a grown up DD living too who has a weekend job and doesn't give any money.