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MLM Bot Watch 48 - Don't miss the BBC Documentary investigating the truth about Multilevel Marketing / Network Marketing!

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BSintolerant · 18/04/2019 09:56

Don't miss the BBC Documentary which is to be broadcast on BBC 3 & BBC iPlayer on the 27th April and BBC 1 on the 8th May!

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UnapologeticallyUnhinged · 21/04/2019 09:23

Oh yes! Lots originate from Mormonism. Got to keep all your wives occupied!

Happy Easter everyone! Have a lovely day all, especially those of you who are working today (ie. retail/hospital/service workers/shillers of gloop).

gotmychocolateimgood · 21/04/2019 09:37

Talk of Mormons reminds me of the Orgazmo film 😂 hilarious!

9dartfinish2nd · 21/04/2019 09:58

I don't much about Younique but the founders of Nu Skin have strong links to the LDS Church.

timelessvie.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/the-importance-of-being-mormon-jamberry-nuskin-forever-living/

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/04/2019 10:37

As does Sexy Rexy of FLP, although they're based next door in Arizona.

Whiterangey · 21/04/2019 11:01

The documentary sounds like it is going to be all that we hoped it would be.

Very pleased about them saying about how the industry has been overlooked by regulators. I am confident I speak for everyone here when I say that the best course of action to protect people from mlm's would be a total UK ban.

I cannot wait for next Saturday and I hope the top bots in Arbonne and Younique are having a brown trouser moment. Though all top bots should be feeling anxious right now.

It sounds like the documentary has the potential to save a lot of people from mlm's.

Whiterangey · 21/04/2019 11:08

I have a couple of mormon friends on Facebook. It is as bad as you think with regards to MLM's, religion plays a huge part. My friends are not in MLM's.

SnoogyWoo · 21/04/2019 12:03

Forever Living magazine is just so full of crap!

www.slideshare.net/mobile/masForeverLiving/forever-living-magazine-september-2016

MontanaSkies · 21/04/2019 13:47

I have high hopes for the documentary too, but I fear that no matter how damning it is of the industry, bots from other MLMs (not the two featured) will be quick to claim that their one "isn't like that". The delusion can run very deep.

BSintolerant · 21/04/2019 14:20

Montana that's true, but if this documentary gets a lot of viewers and generates a lot of discussion it may well lead to further documentaries on some of the other MLMs we all know and love.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/04/2019 14:21

Yes, Montana, 'but my MLM is different' is one of the most frequently recurring draws in MLM Bingo.

Many victims of MLMs are so blinkered by loyalty to 'their' company, which is uniquely ethical and has the greatest products, compensation plan and leadership, that they will quite happily acknowledge that other MLMs are scams or pyramid schemes, while defending their one.

I do hope the documentary, while focusing on two companies in greater depth, makes the general points that all of the features they are exposing are common to all MLMs, and name all the names.

On the subject of MLM documentaries, a major Dutch channel ran one on FLP a few years ago. While it is not as big in the Netherlands as it is(was) here, it made interesting viewing, especially when they back the head of FLP Netherlands into admitting it should be seen as a hobby rather than a way to make money. In the discussion panel at the end, an economist thoroughly thrashes the MLM model.

I'm sure it's been shared on here before, but for those who haven't seen it, it can be found here (with English subtitles):
www.dailymotion.com/video/x5p3g7q

Whiterangey · 21/04/2019 15:39

It's likely it won't have much effect on those already botted. Their uplines will come out with the usual spiel about the documentary being biased and total bullshit while showing off their houses and cars.

What is more likely is that those who are considering signing up or those who are about to be targeted may be able to say no.

Someone will see it and say "Hey Karen, I just saw a programme about that mlm you were thinking of joining". Or something to someone about a programme on MLM's.

For those on someone's list to contact to push the opportunity they will have the knowledge that it's not going to work out.

If it's been done right it's possible it could stop thousands signing up to MLM's. I'm guessing everyone here will be sharing it on social media, as will plenty of others.

People posting it on bots timelines will happen as well.

The BBC is one of the most trusted broadcasters, so hopefully that will help it be taken more seriously.

Hopefully the newspapers will take up the story as well, people sharing that on social media will help as well.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but I do fully believe this documentary has the potential to save a lot of people from joining.

9dartfinish2nd · 21/04/2019 15:46

Thanks for that Twenty, Never seen that Dutch documentary before and its pretty damning.
The economist just picks the whole organisation apart.

Jasmin82 · 21/04/2019 16:18

I know the Guardian (IIRC) are sitting on a MLM article similar to how the BBC documentary is going to be shown. It looks like they're waiting for the BBC to release the documentary before publishing. I know they were interviewing people last month for the article.

gotmychocolateimgood · 21/04/2019 16:19

The Forever magazine linked above looks like a children's magazine. Really. 🙄

9dartfinish2nd · 21/04/2019 20:53

It seems that Nu Skin are holding a "Success Summit" Hmm in Tarragona, Spain just two weeks after BBC1 airs the documentary.

Wonder if there is a hunbot equivalent of the Emergency COBRA Committee?

PersonalTraining · 21/04/2019 21:02

Thanks @UnapologeticallyUnhinged for the welcome to the thread.

The documentary looks great and I will be watching avidly!

Spongebobette · 21/04/2019 21:53

Hmmm that 2016 Forever Living mag upthread features 3 FBOs who, it seems upon a quick search, are no longer involved

darceybussell · 21/04/2019 22:33

Does anyone know where the eagle manager retreat was last October and if anyone in the UK qualified for it? I don't remember a single one of them mentioning it now I think about it!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/04/2019 08:24

Bloodsucker and Uber went. Uber's sister was also there and a couple of other UK bots. Not sure if they qualified or went as extras.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/04/2019 09:56

Yes Dora, it was at Bot HQ in Scottsdale. Uber posted some pictures of the UK bots having an audience with Sexy Rexy. From the comments, you'd think it was a mixture of Gandhi, the Dalaï Lama and Mother fucking Theresa they were meeting.

Spongebobette · 22/04/2019 10:37

Law of Reaction working well

Pics of hubby’s car and of next house project in the last couple of days

waves at Yawn

fitgirl26 · 22/04/2019 11:20

@PersonalTraining - I have a "side hustle" as a group ex instructor. I'm a member of a huge multinational (but predominantly American) Body Pump instructor Facebook group and whenever anyone asks for advice on pre/post workout shakes the many instructors who are also bots all jump on with their various MLMs. I know a couple of personal trainers local to me who have got involved in Juice Plus and have tried to promote it as part of a training package. A leisure centre near me was actually sharing 30 day shred type posts from one of their in house trainers and a quick glance at his profile showed that he was a Herbalife Bot! It's really rife in the fitness industry 😡

Whiterangey · 22/04/2019 11:32

If any top bots are focused on in the documentary I wonder if their mlms will give them the push.

If they are shown to be using underhand tactics which we all know they do the mlm may turn round and say they don't condone that kind of behaviour and give them the shove to try and save face.

We know that they have done it before, that would be awesome if that happened.

I was checking out the top boys in younique yesterday. The makeup is absolutely awful. I don't wear much makeup but I have friends who won't leave the house without a full face on. The difference in quality to what my friends wear and what the younique bots wear is very noticeable.

They are pushing the new 4d mascara very hard, it still looks like spider legs.

gotmychocolateimgood · 22/04/2019 11:37

The younique bots I follow all look yellow. Must be the primer plus concealer plus foundation. Looks terrible.