MLMs/ Network Marketing: Thread 45

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This is the 45th thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, Valentus, TS Life, Monat, Stella and Dot, Tropic, various slimroast/weight loss coffee MLMs and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs.
The reality is that 97% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

I'm also really concerned what the children of these bots are thinking is normal due to repeated exposure to their mum's (and dad's in a few cases ) frequent C9s.

Yawn for example has a teenage daughter who she claims is desperate for her own FL business. Will she think it's the norm to starve herself 3 or 4 times a year?

agreed, @Whiterangey, and these women have daughters who will learn these attitudes and habits

oh god that rotten fruit post is EVERYWHERE

Yup, the daughters and to a lesser extent, the sons of the women are seeing what they are doing. Their mums hopefully don't let then do the C9 but it is easy enough for a teenager or younger to restrict to 500 calories a day.

Fun fact time, when I was a totally normal BMI young teenager I read a story about eating disorders and wished I had one to have a body like a movie star, just a fleeting thought but there you go.

Yawn is off to a funeral, quick stop for breakfast and obligatory smiling photograph.

It's really tough being g a young teenager, particularly with social media photos etc and unrealistic expectations. I can see one such girl, daughter of a bot, becoming more self aware and self conscious, experimenting with make up and entering those tricky years
I think her mother should stop including her in photos, full stop. Children have a right to anonymity and parents shouldn't share their image on a public page (at any age but particularly when they are tennagers IMO)

Castle it's Bruv has just posted about a way to get loads of leave over Easter.

Which considering he is in MLM is completely irrelevant. Not to mention on a previous life he was in the police, meaning BHs are not automatically days off.

He's not bright is he?? 😂😂😂

He just saw that somewhere and copied and pasted it. Trying to get some engagement. Because he hasn't got an interesting or original thought in his head.

Why do bots never see their reflection in mirrors? Welsh bot posted a photo of a mirror she’s selling two days ago then expects everyone to believe that she has lost that much weight in 2 days!
Just confirms the theory they are blood sucking vampires.
And what’s with all the “metaphorical” stuff.

Castle's brother was a graphic designer. Do you remember his posts about how he found it really hard to run his graphic design business, working 18 hour days etc. so he thought he'd give Forever Fibbing a go instead as it would be easier, far more lucrative, and it enabled his sister to buy a castle. (My arse.)

Bots were encouraged to tell these lies to people who owned real businesses to get them to sign up to Forever Fibbing.

Wasn't there a thread on Mumsnet about alternative ways to make money online, or as a freelancer? I think someone who posts on these threads started it off to show people that MLM is never a good idea. Does anyone know where it is? I can't find it.

Placemarking

Iron is boasting about the weight she lost 9 years ago with before and after photos. This is great, but also way before JP (IIRC she was on Slimming World) so irrelevant to the product she’s selling now... although clearly the truth shouldn’t get in the way of a good ‘before and after’ post.

Aloe, aloe, aloe! Dora I had no idea he used to be a cop. Castle's husband was in the fuzz wasn't he?

Oh god I have a fb acquaintance who is harping on about acti-labs at the moment...

Castles Bro, DH and BFF were all cops. BFF's husband left the cops but returned about a year and a half ago. She justified it as something he needed to do, his calling. Coincidentally(!) it was announced not that long after they moved into their 'dream house'!

Ah ... just found his website. He says he was a graphic designer when he joined FLP after being in the police. In the posts I saw a few years ago he was clearly targeting people with real businesses by mentioning his graphic design businesses and how hard it was. He didn't mention being in the police at all. Perhaps he knew that Forever Fibbing could rely on Castle and the others to target demoralised police officers.

I do hope he didn't try to recruit the homeless lady. The lengths bots will go to ...

Lying goes hand in hand with MLM, unfortunately with social media the past can be checked up on. Their downlines are too brainwashed to question anything though.

Are the bots that attend these training days too far in to question where the training actually is? Instead they just roll out the 1% and question them on their wealth and success. No tangible training to assist in their businesses, just feeling that pipe dream.

It really is sad to see so many people, be so desperate.

@fromdownwest Not to mention that they have to pay mega bucks for the training which is always the same format of listening to the 1% tell Their Story and then go on to list all the methods of recruitment - the Who Do You Know list etc.

@fromdownwest- They're already far gone enough not to question that they have to pay serious money to attend training sessions to flog the MLM's crap (not to mention travel & accommodation expenses).

In any sane arrangement, if the company is confident of its product, it would provide free training to all its reps in order to make them more effective.

The script is straight from cult meetings:
Testimonials ("I too was lost, until this miraculous opportunity came to save me"); whipping up group hysteria (lots of flashing lights, synchronised eeeeking, whooping, hollering, clapping and chanting); exhortations to lose themselves to the cult company ("You have to become a product of the product"); warnings to cut yourself off from non-believers ("There are haters out there who do not believe in what you are doing- they are negative influences holding you back, get them out of your life"); encouragement to blind faith and victim blaming ("the key to success is believing strongly enough- if you are not yet successful, it is your fault for not believing enough").

@2020 - it’s really quite frightening. Yes, sometimes this thread can meander off topic a bit. However, when you point it out like that, it’s a such a scary proposition.

Inevitably, it attracts people who need validation for one reason or another, also know as vulnerable.

In my profession, any vulnerable client, HAS, to be accompanied by a family member of if applicable, another professional, before I can even talk to them.

Yet, these people take people at their most vulnerable and rinse them of all their cash and more worryingly their support network of non believers.

It’s so sad.