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Why are MLMs/ Network Marketing 'businesses' a scam?

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Spongebobette · 31/10/2018 20:40

This is the 44th thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, Valentus, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

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UnapologeticallyUnhinged · 01/12/2018 16:46

Yep just watched that vid on Fb. A few hundred people at best. What a great sign.

BSintolerant · 01/12/2018 18:24

UnapologeticallyUnhinged You're very naughty. It's only a matter of time before she wows us all by making a new bra out of hessian, string, bits of twig instead of wire, and photos of her family stuck to it. 😂

BangingOn · 01/12/2018 18:35

Bloody hell, Yawn love please put your breasts away.

BangingOn · 01/12/2018 18:39

Yawn only managed to get 15 of her team there from what I can see, which doesn’t seem that impressive.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 01/12/2018 19:25

And Mrs Stickman isn't there...yay!!!

Looking at her DP's Facebook I can report, with a sigh of relief, that it looks as if she's just happily enjoying family life with that beautiful baby of hers Smile

Spongebobette · 01/12/2018 20:14

SO pleased about Mrs Stickman

We need to celebrate the ones that get away

I’m following one of Yawn’s new recruits and am hoping she sees the light before she sinks much money in. She’s a lone parent and wants to make a bit of extra income. Easy prey for Yawn who seems to have dazzled her.

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cozietoesie · 01/12/2018 20:26

Faux-cameraderie and love-bombing. 😀

BangingOn · 01/12/2018 20:37

Yawn is encouraging people to sign their loved ones up to FL for their Christmas present- can you imagine unwrapping that on Christmas morning?!

BSintolerant · 01/12/2018 20:54

Hang on - can someone actually sign you up to an MLM scheme without your consent, or is she encouraging bots to spend £200 as a gift in disguise for a potential mark?

If someone bought me FL products that would be the end of that friendship.

Jasmin82 · 01/12/2018 21:17

BS I don't know about FL, but the MLM I was in had rules around signing people up. Basically, it doesn't matter who signs and pays for you to join, so long as it isn't a current rep, there's no address conflict (no 2 reps/presenters in the same house) and you're over 18.

Spongebobette · 01/12/2018 21:28

It’s sheer desperation

Not only are they prepared to sign up anyone and everyone, regardless of whether they are suited or whether the market is saturated, but they now will sign up people who haven’t even expressed any interest!!!

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BangingOn · 01/12/2018 21:50

She’s vague on the details. Buy someone you love a business in a box, I’d have loved it if my husband did that for me etc.

Spongebobette · 01/12/2018 21:59

If my husband did that for me he’d have to have the business in a box surgically removed cos I’d shove it where the sun don’t shine

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BSintolerant · 01/12/2018 22:03

Me too Sponge, but sideways. 🤣

BSintolerant · 01/12/2018 22:08

Interesting Jasmine. Perhaps @Doraexplorer99 could shine her torch on FL's rules for signing people up when they least expect it.

Bovneydazzlers · 01/12/2018 22:54

Where did the new Diamond Manager spring up from?!
I can't see he was one of the big cheque earners last few years?
And you need 17 managers... there have barely been that number promoted in 2018.
Is his business UK based?!

DoraExplorer99 · 02/12/2018 05:14

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Pinkhairdontcare21 · 02/12/2018 05:22

I know a GP who is now selling arbonne in her free time.

Wtf

She intersperses it with health/medical tips.

She has on her social media that she is a DR. So it seems like it's being Dr recommended. Gives it an air of officialdom.

How is this bullshit allowed?

Surely the peanuts made from it isn't with it compared to Drs salaries? Unless because she's a DR she's getting a lot of interest and making loads?

She used to sell one of the candle type ones or something a good few years ago. But never has it been so intwined with medical stuff.

She will post nhs info then 5 min later post about health benefits of arbonne. Including bullshit like detoxifying. As if she's unaware we have kidneys.

Do the GMC allow this?!

Bovneydazzlers · 02/12/2018 07:29

The FL member whose company got liquidated (couldn't pay the tax bill), I'm surprised she's still in the FL leadership team. I read the latest companies house report - she's agreed a small monthly payment towards the company as her directors loan account was overdrawn- it also says she is due an estimated £10k payment in April 19 (Chairman's Bonus) which will go into this debt clearance. How can she pretend to be living the dream now, or be still giving training sessions and encouraging others to invest?!
FL needs to be giving more advice on how to use and invest money wisely, but of course they won't, it's all about fake it till you make it (or go broke and carry on)...

With all these other top bots with huge overdrawn directors loan accounts and shaky company balance sheets, I predict more liquidations in 2019...

BSintolerant · 02/12/2018 08:27

Thank you @DoraExplorer99. So it looks like Yawn and others are expecting their minions to spend £200 on crappy products. Hands up who'd rather have the money?

Bovney the MLM Lies Exposed Facebook page has an interesting thread about people losing money - - one poor lady in the UK ended up with a County Court Judgment.

SoftlyCatchyMonkey1 · 02/12/2018 08:34

@pinkhairdontcare21
I expect it's because she's fed up of being a GP and has been told she can quit the stressful, long hours if she builds up her home based business

@bovneydazzlers
Is that "taxbill bot" that people on here refer to? It's incredible that they continue to do FL despite the fact it's got them in to such a financial mess. If you're making loads of moolah why do you need a directors loan...?

The fakery is so strong with FL. You rarely see other people who supposedly earn high incomes posting on about their amazing new shoes / holidays etc - they're busy getting on with life.

Spongebobette · 02/12/2018 10:24

It is extraordinary that a member of the Forever Living UK Leadership Team, photographed yesterday at Success Day, mentioned by Uber as doing well on her FB page etc is in such a financially parlours state.
Her accounts are easy to find on Companies House. She’s having to pay 7.5k to the Liquidator, 500 pounds a month to try to clear her director’s loan and it looks like for a while she wasn’t even communicating with the Liquidator who was about to call in debt collectors last year.

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UnapologeticallyUnhinged · 02/12/2018 11:15

These women are my age and the way they communicate with each other in the comments sections is utterly nauseating.

DoraExplorer99 · 02/12/2018 11:54

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BSintolerant · 02/12/2018 11:57

Their communication leaves a lot to be desired. To think certain bots grouped together to help other bots publish their writings.... dear God.

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