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Why are MLMs/ Network Marketing 'businesses' a scam?

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Spongebobette · 31/10/2018 20:40

This is the 44th thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, Valentus, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

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spanfan · 28/11/2018 13:34

I think Yawn is telling porkies... (Shockedface)

Apparently people often ask her why she works when she doesn't have to.... Okaaay then.

And we all be delighted to hear that she won't be working her bizniz during December....

Chinny reckon. 😂😂😂😂

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 28/11/2018 13:42

spanfan - you took the words right out of my mouth!

So it's because she enjoys helping people succeed?

W H A T U T T E R B O L L O C K S

Norma27 · 28/11/2018 13:44

I’ve just seen yawn’s status too and came on here to see if it had been mentioned already.
Careful yawn, you won’t be able to get your nose thru doors soon with all those porkies you are telling!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 28/11/2018 14:29

I.CAN'T.STOP.RUNNING.AROUND.THIS.HAMSTER.WHEEL.BECAUSE.IF.I.DO.I.WILL.FALL.FLAT.ON.MY.FACE.AND.BE.SPAT.OUT.(HELP!)

Spongebobette · 28/11/2018 14:55

so, @Doratheexplorer, (who knows everything about everything to do with Forever Living) can we assume that Yawn has qualified for Chairman's Bonus if she is not working at all in December?

She does seem to be travelling longer distances to 'present the business opportunity' these days.

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Norma27 · 28/11/2018 15:17

As if she’s not working in December. She won’t be off Facebook, or stop driving around the country.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 28/11/2018 15:48

She regularly posts about taking a weekend/week off and then (almost as if she's forgotten that she's said it) it's closely followed by the usual work related posts so I expect it will be the same in December.

JasperRising · 28/11/2018 17:22

Since PhD bot has called the online business coaching industry out for being a pyramid scheme (but network marketing is totes ok), does anyone know how the coach people to be coaches business works? Are there parent companies like FL, Younique, Arbonne etc or is it more individuals setting up on their own?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 28/11/2018 18:07

Something's obviously rattled PhD bot's cage.

She's railing at people who have trained to be coaches training other people to be coaches, because they are debasing her coaching, since she is trained to be a coach?

Only difference seems to be she is "special"...

She also calls out those who only teach 'how to market a lifestyle', all squeezed in between posts showing off various trips she's been on...

cozietoesie · 28/11/2018 18:57

Does she charge more? 🙂

Windycindy · 28/11/2018 19:14

To have followed these threads forever, but am new on FB. Would be grateful for any PMs (Hun) that could point me in the right direction.

cozietoesie · 28/11/2018 19:28

Can't be done, I fear, Windy. There have been threats of legal action against posters - and I'm afraid that PMs 'count' under MN rules. People are therefore very cagey about what they may send.

Jonsey32 · 28/11/2018 22:49

“I work hard for my dream lifestyle, I worked hard in my job, lining other people’s pockets & not being appreciated for it ... why not work hard for yourself !! “
I don’t understand. If you were a childminder who’s pockets were you lining? You were technically self employed?
If you worked as a police call handler who’s pockets were you lining? It’s a public service.

this statmenet makes no sense!

cozietoesie · 28/11/2018 23:18

Welcome, By The Way, Windy. 🙂

DoraExplorer99 · 28/11/2018 23:28

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Ladiva1971 · 28/11/2018 23:34

Hi Windy just out of interest Cozietoesie how can these people threaten other people with legal action? I mean what can they actually do?

FranceTeam · 29/11/2018 00:46

You always have to be cautious with legal threats, however most of the bots have social media profiles which describe themselves as “public figures”, so I don’t think they would get very far in a legal case since there would be an obvious public interest in scrutinising their activities. But I understand why forums like this would avoid the hassle and ban it.

Ladiva1971 · 29/11/2018 00:57

Thanks for that Franceteam I thought they could sue you for slander or defamation of character, but as you say their FB profiles are public, so there for open to criticism from the public. I now await my letter from Yawns legal team.....

Windycindy · 29/11/2018 04:53

Thank you for the welcome, and I do understand the concerns/explainations about identifying people. I'm not clear how that works when so many of you have figured out the pseudonyms!

IRL I once stayed in a hotel with lots of guests there for a Forever Living event. It was an odd experience. I wish I'd known the threads then!

Norma27 · 29/11/2018 06:42

windy at the beginning of these threads we did use babes. Mumsnet got worried with their ridiculous claims of legal action so that had to stop.
I hear that searching ‘vanilla rainbow cake in a jar’ on Facebook can be very inspiring.

Norma27 · 29/11/2018 06:42

Names not babes!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 29/11/2018 09:58

Thanks for that analysis Sponge.

If I understand correctly, the chairman's bonus will have represented a major chunk of Yawn's income in previous years.

Given that business is generally well down across FL, so presumably her 'regular' income is also heading South, can she afford two cheque-less years in a row?

Especially given that her long-term financial planning (mortgage, car leases etc.) will have been predicated on receiving a substantial bonus every year forever...

No wonder Mr Yawn has quietly returned to working a J.O.B.

Whiterangey · 29/11/2018 09:59

Yawn never lies. She is the moist honest person in the world. If she says she doesn't need to work then she is to be believed.

She hasn't mentioned weight loss recently which is good.

IlikebigbotsandIcannotlie · 29/11/2018 11:51

“moist honest” Grin

SSDGM · 29/11/2018 12:41

Shall we start taking bets if Yawn even bothers to go to the event next year if there’s not going to be a cheque?