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Anti MLM/ Network marketing thread NUMBER 43!!

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Spongebobette · 29/09/2018 18:17

This is the 43rd thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 02/10/2018 17:57

Hmm interesting post on Yawn's FB about her fucking up her maths which means everyone's got to knuckle down and work!

That could mean sooooo many things!

DoraExplorer99 · 02/10/2018 18:03

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leasedaudi · 02/10/2018 18:05

She obviously didn't calculate it right last year either..

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 02/10/2018 18:44

haha!

Myusername2015 · 02/10/2018 19:35

Anyone else irrationally angry about yawns latest team “Macmillan fundraiser” “team add your 5% profit. Even the bottom rung bots will be making 15 percent profit on items sold! What a con I so want to comment but then I’ll be blocked

Spongebobette · 02/10/2018 19:46

EXTREMELY ANGRY

Even if they donated ALL the profit they’d benefit from the increase in CCs

What a fucking SCAM

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Spongebobette · 02/10/2018 19:48

Bet we’ll see more of this ‘bot chooses a charity that is well thought of and people want to support and then leverages the goodwill to flog more product!

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Spongebobette · 02/10/2018 19:50

I pity Yawn’s downline who will now be whipped into working hard so she can get her chairman’s bonus cheque

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PoohBear219 · 02/10/2018 20:47

So perhaps, like Yawn, maths is not my strong point.

My aspiring bot friend tells me her mentor (a poster 'girl' for our favourite MLM), who she aspires, to is doing £100K turnover.

So once VAT has been paid that's £80K revenue. On 35% retail commission that would be £28K per annum.

I believe she pays for shipping and postage /delivery charges so I'll be generous and take another £4K out. So £24K.

Then monthly website charges, travel, fuel, events, mindset training and this is someone who lives and breathes her MLM. So probably making circa £1500 gross a month for 40 hours a week which is just below £7.83 an hour aka as National Minimum Wage.

Nothing wrong with earning minimum wage and £1500 extra income cannot be scoffed at by any household but no holiday pay or pension, no employment rights or security.

Plenty of people (not just women) would be happy to make that money from home without childcare costs etc; although committing to that level of effort is hard.

However, my local ironing lady charges £9 an hour, fits her work around family commitments and has not sold her soul to Social Media. She can also have a nice conversation or cup of tea with anyone she meets without trying to recruit them in to her ancient Egyptian tomb!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/10/2018 20:50

I'm sure Yawn promised that all the profits would go to the charity.

BangingOn · 02/10/2018 20:51

Any recommendations for links on Arbonne to send to an old school friend who has sent me the inevitable ‘reconnect’ message. She’s intelligent and lovely but possibly vulnerable and I’d love to get through to her, although I realise that’s unlikely.

Whiterangey · 02/10/2018 22:16

Yawn is so low that she would have to walk up 15 flights of stairs to reach the sewers.

Attempting to gain CC's by using a charity, and using her team to try and get a chairman's bonus.

I have never seen her this desperate, in fact i've never seen one of the top bots this desperate.

I imagine she is very close to losing her house and the chairman's bonus she thought she was going to get was going to give her some breathing room.

Teddy1970 · 02/10/2018 22:24

Oh dearie me, a few weeks ago, Yawn put a post on FB bragging to all the 'haters' that she'd be laughing all the way to the bank...karma can sometimes work quickly I find, I bet she's not laughing now though, panicking like mad I expect!

Teddy1970 · 02/10/2018 22:26

Is Yawn a top bot? Anyone know what rank she is?

Paddy1234 · 02/10/2018 22:28

Soaring superviser

SassitudeandSparkle · 02/10/2018 22:34

Pooh's example has reminded me of something - in the training for a particular franchise (not MLM, obviously) they used to point out that if you wanted to earn a set amount of money from your business that your turnover would have to be about three times that amount to cover all the costs involved. I can see why that's not as attractive as just talking headline turnover figures though!

Teddy1970 · 02/10/2018 22:38

Cheers Paddy..

Paddy1234 · 02/10/2018 22:40

Seriously all these top bots have overspent drastically.
Welsh bot is just finishing a huge renovation and still owes the tax man with no huge bonus this year
Uber has cash in the bank however with two at private school and one baby that she would like to put through - no change out of 300k future fees still to pay
Tax bill not has gone very quiet for last month
Castle emigrated to the Canaries so that's her future income gone
Yawn bff has two sets of school fees to pay
Every bit of there lives hinged on these bonus's coming through for the future
The middle ones were actually more sensible and didn't sign up to school fees and large mortgages and have either jumped ship at the height or dabble at it now.
I remember seeing Model bot go round the local private school but thank goodness enrolled her daughter into state primary however I probably think she is not going to last long before she has to go back into nursing
If you are reading this bots - it's your fault - you put all your life on open Facebook.
FL will have no time for you when you become unprofitable, they will move onto the next untapped market.

peachgreen · 02/10/2018 22:42

A Younique bot used my PND to try and recruit me recently. Nice.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 02/10/2018 22:50

The more I re-read Yawn's post the more aghast I am at her sheer nerve, her complete lack of morals, her fucking cheek.

It would be like me going into work and telling the staff I manage that I can't afford a holiday but I want one so they better work harder, even if they lose out financially, because I want it!

Willowsauntie · 02/10/2018 22:52

@paddy1234

Is she really only a supervisor? How the hell is she funding her lifestyle and what made her think she & Mr Yawn could give up work?!

She cannot have ever earned very much!?

Paddy1234 · 02/10/2018 22:57

Sorry I was joking!
I have no idea what she is other than a blood sucking leech

Willowsauntie · 02/10/2018 23:14

This may not be new information, however Yawn's barn/farm house appears to be rented.

The last sale was in 2004, with a rental listing in 2016 for £1850pcm. Is this another part of her sham lifestyle?

JaniceBattersby · 02/10/2018 23:45

She is absolutely unequivocal about the fact she owns it Willows. Given the extensive ‘renovations’ she’s done, she surely must own the place. Have you checked the land registry? Rightmove is not always entirely accurate.

Jonsey32 · 02/10/2018 23:45

I’m sure she owns it as she has done work on it. You wouldn’t do that on a rental.