Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

Anti MLM/ Network marketing thread NUMBER 43!!

991 replies

Spongebobette · 29/09/2018 18:17

This is the 43rd thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
Electrascoffee · 10/10/2018 06:49

Has anyone seen the script on Yawn's exclusive business cards?

'Be like a diamond, precious and rare. Not like a stone found everywhere'

🤣

user1484830599 · 10/10/2018 07:01

YES!! @Electrascoffee. It sounds like something an over dramatic teenager has thought up.

SSDGM · 10/10/2018 07:10

About as deep as a puddle.

Electrascoffee · 10/10/2018 07:16

My friends husband who runs a real business said years ago that FL would have to come crashing down at some point.

A FL person once tried to recruit me, eagerly telling me that she had seen Yawn's payslips (16k a month apparently!)

user1484830599 · 10/10/2018 07:38

Let's hope she made hay while the sunshined and put it all in her mortgage

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 10/10/2018 08:31

I suspect she spent a fair bit on flashy "look at me" items to show off on facebook - designer handbags and shoes etc.

She also spent a small fortune on heart shaped tat and inspirational quotes I suspect. Home Sense in Worcester must be worried about the impending fall of FL Grin

Electrascoffee · 10/10/2018 08:54

Yes, many years ago when she was on my FB she did indeed post frequent pictures of designer shoes and handbags. And new cars.

SSDGM · 10/10/2018 16:05

Salon has been working until 4am on her “international business”, which is hilarious to me as the multi national company I work for absolutely do not expect me to be on callls outside of normal UK working hours.

Lizilondon · 10/10/2018 16:30

I thought Salon was done by trading standards. Valentus seem to be going for it again, lots of high earners. Do you think they really are with only 2 products legal to sell in this country. It puzzles me.

BSintolerant · 10/10/2018 16:56

I see Companies House have published FL's accounts: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02269910/filing-history

Norma27 · 10/10/2018 17:06

Just read the first bit but oh dear forever living! There cannot be long left surely!

DoraExplorer99 · 10/10/2018 18:12

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ArbunneHun · 10/10/2018 18:55

Some really interesting nuggets in the accounts.

1: The gross profit margin is incredibly high. This just reinforces everything we’ve already said about MLM being a great business model - if you own/run it.

2: FLPUK makes £ half a million a year on selling ‘literature’ to FBOs and £ a third of a million on events. FBOs pay for everything & everything makes a profit for Sexy Rexy (& Family)

3: Direct employee headcount has seen a notable reduction in the UK & will doubtless decline further

4: Sexy Rexy charges FLPUK £100k rent on Longbridge

5: impressive profits margin aside, the 47% collapse in revenue and the 64% decline in new FBO sign-ups is a jaw dropping fall.

ArbunneHun · 10/10/2018 18:58

Lizilondon Valentus has always been about autoship & bought promotions, never about sales. You make money through recruiting a team and getting them to sign up to autoship and recruit in return. It’s a blatant pyramid scheme with little to no sales outside of the participants.

Spongebobette · 10/10/2018 19:20

Great points @Arbunnehun

If you own an MLM you have it made. Notice how the ownership of Forever Living is one family? They are milking all their adherents for all they are worth
The Forever Living model is like a swarm of locusts. They move into a new country, breed rapidly and lay waste, then move on. They leave the ‘business owners’ with debt and move to another, untapped, market.
Cleverly, they send their poster girls from this market to open up the next one. Eg Leech in Africa (can’t remember her specific target country), Uber in SA and Castle in UAE.

OP posts:
cozietoesie · 10/10/2018 20:23

Thanks for the pointers, Arbunne. Smile

cozietoesie · 10/10/2018 20:26

Nigeria, perhaps?

ArbunneHun · 10/10/2018 20:38

Their staffing costs are £1m down on 2016. That’s a combination of headcount reduction at HQ/warehouse and possibly a reduced annual bonus for BP..?

If anything, I’d anticipate 2018 numbers being even worse.

Hunbot · 11/10/2018 07:26

According to uber she is greatful to sexy rexy for sacrificing everything he did to give fbo's a future - come again? #flipreverseit

Norma27 · 11/10/2018 07:44

Lots of people went to yawn’s open evening last night and LOVED it!
Wonder if that is why she hasn’t taken any photos of the empty room!
A bit like one of my herbashite bots who does a herbashite fit camp on a Monday night at her gymnastics club. Funny how she has forgotten to take pictures the last couple of weeks!

Tizzlebizzle · 11/10/2018 07:50

Just poppin' on to recommend another podcast - Escaping NXIVM is Shock

CurlsandCurves · 11/10/2018 08:05

Subscribed!

Another good and absolutely hilarious one if you like your cults, is Zealot. I listen when I go out walking and it’s quite embarrassing when I can’t help but burst out laughing at times!

SSDGM · 11/10/2018 08:52

Thank you! I have at least 6 hours’ driving ahead of me today so they will help!

This week’s episode of The Dream was once again marvellous.

I really don’t understand how anyone at the bottom of the pyramid can be pro MLM in the face of what is becoming an overwhelming tsunami of evidence of the fact that they are doomed to failure.

ArbunneHun · 11/10/2018 09:51

Because everyone secretly wants to believe that they will be the 1% who becomes wildly successful. That’s the hook that reels them in and keeps them spending/recruiting. That’s why the poster girls & boys of MLM are so important. The message is always: I was like you, and now I’m rich and adored. Do as I did and you can be rich and adored too!

user1484830599 · 11/10/2018 10:45

People really are sheep. Following the herd and not even bothering to think for themselves/do their research.