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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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SSDGM · 17/07/2018 09:08

They did 12 flights last year, don’t you know? That’s how you measure success!

RogueApostrophe · 17/07/2018 10:58

Sleaze did 6 return flights but counted each way as a separate flight, just to big himself up!

Spongebobette · 17/07/2018 11:04

Those two really are a couple of grifters. They hypnotise their followers with convoluted language about passive income and bitcoin.

SSDGM · 17/07/2018 11:17

Wonder if they have satisfied those CCJs yet? They’re semi-retired after all.

I notice Broke has “earned” three times as much in 2 weeks with CTFO than he did with Hempworx, which was three times as much as he did with Evolution (which he admitted he was owed £70 from). Except no one has received a single order yet. And the jury is out if the oil is even legal.

Spongebobette · 17/07/2018 11:20

if you multiply 0 by 0 you get 0 ........

Norma27 · 17/07/2018 16:41

Bots will be so happy today. Apparently it is world emoji day!!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 17/07/2018 16:44

Every day is World Comma Day for some bots Grin

Twentytwentyhindsight · 17/07/2018 16:54

And stream of consciousness punctuation- free day for others.

If Yawn and Broke joined as a new Power Couple in the MLM world, would they get the balance just right?

Whiterangey · 17/07/2018 17:39

The language that Wig and Sleaze use reminds me of Del Boy when he was a wannabe yuppie.

I'm fully expecting one of them to start saying bonjour inappropriately.

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BSintolerant · 17/07/2018 19:37

Bain Marie! Wink

Norma27 · 17/07/2018 19:41

My daughter’s ex gym coach who is now a fully botted up member of Herbalife ran a ‘fitclub’ last night.
Despite promoting it all week it was her, her sister, 2 best mates and their kids.
Living the dream right there!

SSDGM · 17/07/2018 21:13

This time next decade, Rodney, they’ll be millionaires!

8misskitty8 · 17/07/2018 23:58

The foreverbot I know has put up on her ‘business’ page that one of her team has just become a manager after 4 months and is now earning £1600 to £2000 a month, on top of her full time job wage.
I find that hard to believe, if you earn that much while working full time as well then why not jack the job in and do forever full time instead ?

Spongebobette · 18/07/2018 00:35

because it's a big fat lie!

8misskitty8 · 18/07/2018 07:57

The ‘team’ she speaks off isn’t her actual own team, but she writes it like it is. They are both part of the 4cc team as I’ve seen the list of names as she posted it the other week. So someone else has them both under her.
Took my foreverbot over a year to reach level 1 and she now has a pin. Crazy

Whiterangey · 18/07/2018 09:43

Everything is all about teamwork when in reality you are actually very much alone, unless you are being guilted into buying more product by your upline to increase their cc's.

The team aspect makes it even more attractive to vulnerable women who may be a bit lonely, having instant best friends is very attractive.

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 18/07/2018 10:25

Best friends that love bomb you and post wonderful memes on fb about you, about how you're their rising star, that you're smashing it and are destined for a great future full of health, wealth and happiness. Hmm

Yet we're still waiting for someone to come onto these threads and tell us that that is indeed what you get. Instead we are hearing from embarrassed, broken women with massive debts who have been bullied, lied to and deceived Sad

Spongebobette · 18/07/2018 11:03

Yes it is SO obvious when someone like Yawn creates a nice picture of one of her downline with stars and hearts around it and says this person is 'smashing it' or is a 'pocket rocket' etc etc etc................it's a barefaced strategy to keep them hooked in. All of the downline's friends will see it and assume they are doing well and it must be really really hard to admit to yourself that you are actually not making an impressive income.

I wonder what Yawn's new Manager is really making, once she takes all her costs into account? I would be very interested to see if it is actually 2k a month as has been claimed.

We all know that Yawn is DESPERATE for new Managers in her downline so she can get the Chairman's bonus next year.

Jonsey32 · 18/07/2018 11:06

How many managers do you need to qualify for a cheque?

Nakedavenger74 · 18/07/2018 11:06

Oh wow. Wig has posted a picture from 2015 with Uber! Puts her leadership ability down to 'learning from the best'.
Doesn't mention why she's no longer an FL bot though.
Bot worlds collide!

Spongebobette · 18/07/2018 11:08

@Jonsey32 I am not sure, I'm not an expert on the super complicated world of FL

@Doratheexplorer knows this stuff

Spongebobette · 18/07/2018 11:10

oops that's @DoraExplorer99

Spongebobette · 18/07/2018 11:28

PS I noticed that this new Manager is lending out 'mum packs' for people to try out the products (and to try and get more people to buy the stuff and join her team of course!)

She will have had to buy all of this herself, no doubt encouraged by Yawn as 'investment in her business'... not really, though, just more CCs for her upline.

There are quite a few semi health claims re IBS etc on her page too.....I've noticed other bots now just talk in vague terms about having more energy and better hair and skin after drinking the gel, presumably those are not health claims per se so they can get away with it. It's a load of bollox anyway, the only thing aloe vera does is loosen your bowels!

KevinTheYuccaPlant · 18/07/2018 11:50

TooBusy - thanks, I suspect that's what we'll do if she tries to take it further. I had a quiet word with the hall treasurer, who is very switched on, about my suspicions it was an MLM and she said she suspected the same, so the two of us will be able to present a united front to the rest of the committee if it comes up.

DoraExplorer99 · 18/07/2018 11:51

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