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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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9dartfinish · 13/06/2018 10:58

@Norma27 Well Done for even getting to the stage of having a conversation with a Nuskin bot. They can get extremely defensive when anything critical is said about thier company. Hopefully she reads Elle's blog and sees the similarities, especially when it comes to the mindset training and fake it till you make it persona.
I've heard a lot about Nuskin people paying for NLP Training courses which is an extra layer of expense on top of the local and national events running throughout the year as well.

Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 11:03

When Roomie eats she EATS! I'm talking she likely has a trough, sticks her head in it and eats thousands of calories a day, probably 10 meals a day, all of them chocolate.

I can't think of any other reason why she posted a photo of herself in a bikini on the 28th May looking all lovely and fit and thin or whatever in a black bikini.

Then we have the photo she has used today of her on day 1 of her C9 which would have been 9 days ago, so the 4th June. So in 6 days she went from a lovely figure in a black bikini to looking all flabby and fat or whatever ready for her 'fat' photo on the 4th June.

Only to go back to where she was 15 days later.

She must be eating 10,000 calories a day when she isn't on the C9, it's the only explanation I can come up with.

So she was thin on the 28th May, fat on the 4th June, and now thin on the 13th June. She must binge eat.

It's either that or camera angles, sucking the stomach in and using old photos, but that would mean she is a liar and i've never seen a bot lie, they are the most truthful people on the planet.

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 13/06/2018 12:34

Finally Yawn is consulting with a nutritionist.

If it's a nutritionist that's any good they should tell her her ditch the aloe shit, C9 etc but she's not going to admit to that on her fb page is she?!

I had to laugh at Roomie's photos. The side lighting on the before picture obviously there to show every dimple and imperfection, the breathing out etc. Do people seriously believe it?

SSDGM · 13/06/2018 13:07

I thought a shake a day kept her fat ass away?

I feel sorry for her than her self worth is so tied to her weight.

But saying that, I’ve gained 2 stones in 5 years and my earnings have doubled, unlike hers that have halved or worse..

Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 13:22

I'd like to think she is seeing a proper nutritionist who does know what they are talking about.

I would like to think she has joined TeamRH on facebook, but given that she is going on about how quickly she has lost 1.5kg and talks about a 10 week plan i'm guessing not, considering he also put out a video calling those who sell the C9 not very nice people, I also think that is a nope.

I'm not sure of the point of fasting either, your body will burn calories whatever time of the day it is, your body will only store excess fat if you eat more calories than you use.

I predict she will lose weight and then put it all back on. After her 10 weeks she will go back to eating 'normally' and put it back on. Products from forever living are not balanced for weightloss their purpose is to deprive you of calories and taste.

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dropdeadfitty · 13/06/2018 13:23

So not feeling it when all we get on here is about Yawn and her weight.
There's got to be more than chatting constantly about people weight and imperfections - as much as we know they lie - ultimately the only people they are fooling is themselves.

Self loathing and self-harming each day in order to make a buck is a horrible thing to see, once you are in a cycle of shame, it's a hard thing to stop..

SSDGM · 13/06/2018 13:33

Yawn herself is the one that perpetuates this ideal that a woman must be rich and thin to be seen as successful. her life is all about other people’s perceptions of her and I feel sorry for her. But only a little bit.

The issue of women and their weight looms large in MLM, if it didn’t tgere wouldn’t be the get thin quick message that goes hand in hand with the get rich quick one.

Forever living is not a diet nor a reliable income. She’s has truly become the product of her product.

Paddy1234 · 13/06/2018 14:25

I think we have been here before - FL through their bots are selling the perfect 'life'. I will personally call out anyone on this issue. The use of selfies, lifestyle and home photos just buy into it. Yawn with a few others put themselves right into the firing line. It is seriously damaging for ourselves and the youth of today if this is how a perfect life is sold. It's fake and it needs to stop. FL has marketed itself as a weight loss nutritional organisation and therefore any criticisms are entirely valid.

MLMsuperfan · 13/06/2018 15:20

Brokebot is giving testimony about the libido-enhancing properties of his snake oil. Ew.

Eddierussett · 13/06/2018 16:32

Unlike a lot of the bots, current UK FL number 1s son's transformation really is impressive. I wonder what his mum thinks of the fact that he doesn't mention FL products once in his Mens Health video. And is the absence of reference to FL because he knows the products are useless or because Mens Health wouldn't let him plug them.

Eddierussett · 13/06/2018 16:35

He is/used to be a FIT ambassador so this was the first time I have seen him not linking FL products to his fitness and weight loss success.

Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 16:40

I can see how it looks like we are fatshaming and generally being mean about Yawn, but we aren't.

She is the one who has made a fortune on fatshaming vunerable people, promising them a quick fix, lying to them that the C9 will make them lose a stone of fat in only 9 days and they will keep it off.

Within days of them finishing the C9 they will have put back on all of the weight they have lost as it's just water they have lost, then comes depression, feelings of failure and of worthlessness because everyone else succeeds at the C9 except them.

That what she does to people, by pointing out that she is obese despite ingesting all manner of forever living magic weight loss cures, she is still obese hopefully people will see that if she can't do it, which she can't as it's physically impossible, then they won't be able to do it and will hopefully realise that a quick fix for weight loss will only lead to more problems, a lot of them psychological.

I have a personal interest in this because a very dear friend was harmed for many years by the diet industry in general and especially these kind of quick fixes, they are harmful and I hate them and I would love for them to be banned.

The only way to successfully lose weight is by eating less calories than you burn.

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Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 16:41

I can see how it looks like we are fatshaming and generally being mean about Yawn, but we aren't.

She is the one who has made a fortune on fatshaming vunerable people, promising them a quick fix, lying to them that the C9 will make them lose a stone of fat in only 9 days and they will keep it off.

Within days of them finishing the C9 they will have put back on all of the weight they have lost as it's just water they have lost, then comes depression, feelings of failure and of worthlessness because everyone else succeeds at the C9 except them.

That what she does to people, by pointing out that she is obese despite ingesting all manner of forever living magic weight loss cures, she is still obese hopefully people will see that if she can't do it, which she can't as it's physically impossible, then they won't be able to do it and will hopefully realise that a quick fix for weight loss will only lead to more problems, a lot of them psychological.

I have a personal interest in this because a very dear friend was harmed for many years by the diet industry in general and especially these kind of quick fixes, they are harmful and I hate them and I would love for them to be banned.

The only way to successfully lose weight is by eating less calories than you burn.

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BSintolerant · 13/06/2018 18:35

Brokebot is giving testimony about the libido-enhancing properties of his snake oil. Ew.

You make it sound like one-eyed trouser snake oil MLMsuperfan! Grin I hope he's not massaging his mamba with it!

Happypuppy · 13/06/2018 19:36

One of the new recruits s already trotting out the “inbox on fire” piffle.

Will watch and wait to see when it all goes quiet. I give it 3 months.

dadandmum · 13/06/2018 20:23

Check out Yawn screens of tonights "training hun session", and look at the amount of un-read email she has, no wonder she isn't getting anywhere, unorganised!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 13/06/2018 22:07

Hang on, didn't Yawn make a song and dance about a brand new white Audi TT? The one she's in the driving seat of is much older and blue....and broken.

SSDGM · 13/06/2018 22:15

Interesting update about Safegirl on the Lies Exposed Page.

SSDGM · 13/06/2018 22:20

Brand new car owners don’t need people to come and rescue them when they break down. Brand new Audis come with at least 3 year’s breakdown assistance. Why take an old car when you are trying to impress potential victims new team mates? Wouldn’t you take the spanking new one?

Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 22:26

The blue car is her husbands car.

The story doesn't make sense, the car is less than a year old, why did she have the bonnet up when she isn't a mechanic?

Why did her husband have to rescue them? He wouldn't have just used her car to pick up three people and himself, not enough room.

How could he fix it? Why not call out the AA or RAC or a mechanic? When he rescued them he must have fixed the car somehow, why didn't they just drive on to their destination? They had only done a few miles at that point, the photo proves that, he would have got to them and they could have been on their way with only being less than an hour late.

None of it makes sense, she is bullshitting but I cannot think why.

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Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 22:29

The car was bought, well leased, on the 10th August last year.

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SSDGM · 13/06/2018 22:46

Yeah, she was late and couldn’t be arsed 😂😂

Whiterangey · 13/06/2018 23:46

She goes to great lengths to show that the car broke down, including the classic bonnet up photo, but nobody looking at the engine. You can see from the photo that it's obviously not fake as the car has broken down on a proper road and any obviously there will be traffic coming down the road behind her, the road she has most definitely just come down.

Smart, but she is so full of bullshit and should try harder next time. A quick google maps search and then a street view of the road she is on shows that the road behind her isn't a road. Just beyond where the silver smart car is in the layby, there is a roadblock. You cannot pass, it is not a public road but a road that leads to the disused BBC Academy Wood Norton site. It is blocked, seriously blocked, she did not come down that road. The only way she could have been in that position is to have performed a 3 point turn and purposefully positioned her car in that position to make it look like she has broken down on a busy road.

Unless she was going to park in that little lay by, which serves a small house which would be just behind where the person taking the photo is standing she would have no business being there.

Search BBC Academy Wood Norton and you can see what I mean, she set up the whole thing.

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BSintolerant · 14/06/2018 00:01

What if she was dogging? Might be a new way to recruit. Grin

Whiterangey · 14/06/2018 00:05

Dogging is an interesting theory.

I had another look and she is actually quite a way from a public road as the road it looks like she is about to turn onto is a road that leads up from a public road to a hotel, so she has planned it quite well to find a road to take the photo on that wouldn't put them in danger but would look real.

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