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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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Eddierussett · 12/06/2018 11:24

OK this is very superficial but after watching the last season of America's Next Top Model all I can see is how bad lots of bots are at selfies in mirrors... I am getting irrationally irritated at the number of them that hold their cameras in front of their faces and look at the phone screen! C'mon if you are trying to make a living selling lifestyle and looks try and get the phone off to the side/cropped out and look straight ahead! (Nb: not all of them do this, some do very good selfies but so many don't )

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 12/06/2018 11:30

Yawn's post has had four likes from existing bots. That's it.

Spongebobette · 12/06/2018 11:58

yeah but come on, her inbox is no doubt ON FIRE

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 12/06/2018 13:39

As are her pants, no doubt

(as per the childhood favourite.....Liar, liar, pants on fire)

Norma27 · 12/06/2018 13:39

On fire as in ‘liar, liar, inbox on fire’?

Norma27 · 12/06/2018 13:40

Ha ha kenny x post!

ArbunneHun · 12/06/2018 14:37

If anyone hadn’t sent Wig that €1,000 to become a ‘shareholder’ in the totally legit Mize scheme she’s schilling for, do get a move on. This opportunity is a once in a lifetime chance to be a shareholder huns! With signed documents!

Tick tock guys, tick tock...

Norma27 · 12/06/2018 15:15

I’m just raiding my kids piggy banks and mum’s pension Arbunne. How can I resist such an opportunity?

ArbunneHun · 12/06/2018 17:24

You can’t miss it! C’mon huns!! Just €1000 and you will be set for life!

Norma27 · 12/06/2018 17:40

Yawn’s post still only has 4 likes. Oh dear!!

Whiterangey · 12/06/2018 17:59

Can someone lend me 1000 Euro's please?

I'll pay it back with interest because i'm about to be a gazillionaire, you definitely 100% won't need to go to the small claims court to attempt to get your money back.

Also, if you have another 1000 Euro's knocking about, you really cannot afford to miss this new opportunity, you too will be a gazillionaire in less than 14 hours.

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Whiterangey · 12/06/2018 18:19

Salon appears to have had her lips done again. It's a heavily filtered photo but it appears to have gone very very wrong and she looks like a blow up doll. They look uneven and the wrong shape.

Is it safe to get them done in pregnancy? I'm sure the filler wouldn't go anywhere to harm the baby but like with having anything done to your hair your body changes and things don't go the same as they do when you aren't pregnant.

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ArbunneHun · 12/06/2018 18:41

Sacked by Ariix has posted a rather sad post about a Facebook memory from this time last year. She was pregnant ‘her’ business was booming, she’d just signed the lease on her dream home, she was happy, no money worries.

Fast forward 6 months and she was weeks away from giving birth only to have ‘her’ business taken away from her, a huge monthly rent to meet, children to feed & clothe, bills to pay and no income at all.

This is the ultimate demonstration that in Network Marketing, it is never ‘your’ business. You have absolutely no security or legal protection. They can pull the plug on you overnight.

Then what?

Whiterangey · 12/06/2018 19:27

I'm sure I knew who sacked by ariix is, but are the any clues because I have no idea who she is.

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Isit7yet · 12/06/2018 19:44

Could someone pm the names? I have been blocked by one bot - she's a coffee bot and highest gem stone or whatever in Europe ?!?! I have another prolific Arbonne bot in my area. Watching her on social media her life looks perfect, sadly I know her husband. Who funds her entire life style whilst shagging about and treating her like shit! I read on her page that she has even recruited a doctor? Surely not!

Eddierussett · 12/06/2018 20:21

Current UK number 1 (I think)'s son has been featured in a video by Men's Health. I have seen it being sold by bots as he has made such a wonderful transformation using FL products with healthy eating and fitness so was ready to be annoyed with Men's Health. The video doesn't mention FL once and is all about healthy eating and fitness! Bots really do spin anything... (and he is clearly clever at spinning the story of his transformation depending on publication and audience).

fitgirl26 · 12/06/2018 21:58

So according to Wig re her latest Cryptoscam "shareowners will have the ability to enjoy the company growth and be paid 50% of the company profits monthly". What happens if there are more than two shareowners?

SSDGM · 12/06/2018 22:38

Wig couldn’t find her arse with both hands. Why are people listening to her? She’s more broke than Broke!

Talking of Broke, he has a magic friend who home treated her mother’s cancer with turmeric and CBD oil.

Sure, Jan.

Whiterangey · 12/06/2018 22:42

People were wondering a few pages back what the managers of the countries that UK bots are poaching from think about it.

I think they aren't very impressed. Uber has posted about working with her 'UK international team'. She has specified that they are all in the UK but working with people back in their home countries. It reads weirdly, like she's put in more detail than is necessary. I think there has been some fallout regarding poaching abroad.

I wonder what this could mean for bloodsucker? Whether she could end up losing her international teams and her income could go to virtually nil. What an awesome day that would be, i'd be cracking open the champagne.

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Paddy1234 · 12/06/2018 23:04

I think in the past when UK was right up there as No.1/2, the up and coming country MD's would have feted them. However now with what is a catastrophic drop in business they must be furious that the UK top bots are using their turf to maintain their cheques. I wonder if anything is happening behind the scenes. The U.K. do not have any leverage anymore and probably won't figure in the top ten next year in my opinion.

Whiterangey · 12/06/2018 23:57

I agree. When their income went down and the UK ran out of victims they went abroad, there is nobody left in the UK, well almost nobody. They had to go abroad to survive.

Now the countries they were recruiting from are getting bigger and their top bots are likely making a fuss about it, the country manager will side with their own country bots.

They may also have spent the last couple of days aggressively going after bots in South Africa after the worlds number 2 died.

Castle stated that she was her bestie, so I wouldn't be shocked if she was telling that to bots over there to try and join her team.

What happens to bots in someones downline if they die or leave? Does the upline inherit them? Obviously her downline will dwindle down to nothing without continuous recruitment so in a few months it will barely exist as those already there leave, but the ones who do stay, whose team do they go to? Can the bots choose?

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Norma27 · 13/06/2018 02:52

One of the bots from uber’s afternoon tea is determined to get one of those big cheques soon. I wonder why the cheque on show is the 2016 one? It is bad enough they get put on display. Who seriously does that? I must frane all my payslips and hang them over in the living room for all to see. At least show the latest, smaller one Uber.

DoraExplorer99 · 13/06/2018 07:57

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Norma27 · 13/06/2018 08:03

Dora that is so sad. I do feel really sorry for those losing money under the top bots.
I called a nuskin bot out last week for her comments on another bots status. She was faking interest in the products when already a bot. We had a bit of a conversation and she said she would look at Elle beau but just wanted the best for her kids.
I have looked at her posts since and she obviously suffers from mental health issues, and is being fed so many lies. She is opening a salon and going to have fl, poonique and nuskin there. These upline bots are so bloody callous and don’t care what devastation they cause.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 13/06/2018 09:38

Roomie's C9 "before and after" pics - it even come with a new phone, bargain at £130!

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