MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

[Whiterangey]

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

Has anyone else seen Messiah having a 'forced time off' reclining in a cinema, whilst trying to fool his people into thinking it's his own private cinema room!? The numbers on the seats and the coke in the paper cup kind of give it away.

Huns! Only 5 days left to join Wig’s latest crypto-ponzi! What are you waiting for?

I did wonder about the point of that picture @Twirlywooer.
Being able to sit in the front row recliner chairs of an empty cinema before a kiddies film while drinking pop out of a paper cup is clearly aspirational for his followers.

Ha ha to losing 100-130 pounds on the c9. I’ll try that next time.
I’ve actually been doing couch to 5k and feel great for it. Need to stop the booze to actually lose weight tho.
Why can’t people understand that move more and eat less/healthier equals weight loss. Not spending money on shit like c9.

@ArbunneHun - I know!!!

It's only 4 days now!

How can people allow themselves to miss out on the next humongous opportunity to ride the high-tech wave of disruptive innovation when it is so convincingly sold by a picture of a low rent scammer with an Instagram filter my 8 year-old would find cringeworthy?

Last chance huns!!! Believe!!!

How many pounds you lose on the C9 has always depended on whether you're getting it at wholesale or retail, and whether it contributes to your CCs.

@Twenty I KNOW! Filters just scream “Trust me! I’m an investment professional!”

How has Wig got any money left to lose? She must have borrowed from all of her friends by now and not paid them back and unable to borrow more. I'm guessing her credit rating is bad, we know she has a county court judgement against her so nobody will lend to her.

Where is she getting the money?

I read a bit about Mize Network and had a look at their page. I couldn't understand any of it, which i'm guessing is how it's meant to be.

Your earnings do seem tied to bitcoin and that increasing, so likely like USI where you would earn the same % even if bitcoin went down because it was a Ponzi scheme and there was never anything else other than money put in by the victims of the scheme.

She is so easily conned. She invested in Bitcoin when it was at about $10,000, she could have sold when it was at it's highest and made profit, but because lots of people were saying it will rise to $50k or higher, and as that is what she wants to believe she didn't sell.

I would love to see bitcoin crash and burn and end up worthless, i'd feel bad for those who have lost money, but it would be the end of crypto ponzi's.

@Whiterangey - I don't believe Wig has ever been close to an actual Bitcoin or part thereof (or any other crypto currency).

All she has ever seen are figures on a screen. Even if bitcoin had gone up 1,000-fold, she would have lost her money, since it was never there for her.

These scams are pure Ponzis that bear no real-life relationship to crypto currency 'investments'.

Mugs pay in, might get a small return for getting other mugs to pay in, then the founders run off with the cash.

It may be the case that in some of those schemes, the takings are in crypto, but they are the proceeds of a pyramid scam, not an investment.

They are aimed at the most desperate, those who would not think "Hang on, I can't see how this works, better steer clear", but those who think "This is so beyond my level, there must be something I'm missing out on!"

She did actually buy some actual bitcoin before the price went up to the top.

Then again it's likely she ended up using that bitcoin in a ponzi scheme as all the crypto ponzi's require you to buy in using cryptocurrency as it's untraceable that you have it so authorities can't confiscate it.

So while she did actually have some proper bitcoin it's probably long gone because she is stupid.

Meanwhile, Sleaze is off with his very very sick son, as he should be, but Wig continues with this bullshit. Though it will be with the full blessing of Sleaze. I just can't imagine how she can carry on with this bullshit while her stepson is so seriously ill.

You are also right that the rise of crypto currencies and their seeming ability to detach themselves from the real economy and increase in value apparently through the mere power of wishful thinking has made them a prime cover for fleecing people through Ponzis.

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that their end would also be an end to pyramid schemes.

There are enough people who are desperate for a way to improve their conditions, but who do not have the means/tools at their disposal to do so by 'conventional' means.

They will always be prey to the purveyors of quick-fix wishful thinking pyramid schemes, whether Ponzis (varnished with crypto currency or travel agent status or whatever), or MLMs (essentially the same, but hiding behind some 'product').

I doubt that even tightening legislation would help that much. It is a sad fact that society as it is makes such options seem viable through a lack of genuine opportunities (for women in particular).

As long as there is desperation, there will be vultures preying on it.

@Whiterangey - I know Wig thought she had some bitcoin late last year, but seeing as she hasn't got a clue about the stuff (many wiser people don't either), it is entirely likely she was shown a screen telling her she had some, then was convinced to invest this (mythical?) bitcoin into something that promptly collapsed...

True.

How can someone be that gullible and manage to live in the real world?

Seemingly by managing to convince people even more gullible than her to fund each of her 'ventures'.

I don't think she is too bright, but have heard she is extremely manipulative.

I think she probably realises that each and every scheme she hails as the 'real deal' is a scam and she is just hoping to get in early enough to skim a few bob before it goes tits up, waiting for the one chance at the 'big one' that will set her up...

Yawn needs 30 people to donate half an hour of their time to her as part of a confidence building exercise for her.

You don't need to do anything except let her talk to you.

Only until the end of July though.

The desperation is unreal, she's getting more and more desperate every single day.

Nobody is interested in the business so now she has had to go to really underhand tactics.

I saw the word 'donate' and thought it was a charity thing, as when you are asked to donate something you usually expect it is to help someone in need. Not someone in need of CC's which she needs in order to keep #thesnatch

Or the thatch or whatever she calls it.

I would offer but I cannot comment on her posts,,,,,,

If I had to give Yawn my full attention for 30 minutes, I would need a lot of what Broke's smoking or I would lose the will to live.

Desperation has set in - I have just looked back at my messages from 2012 and someone said would I sit in on a proposal as they had to meet their target (FL) - just a ruse to sign you up. If I remember correct I didn't politely decline and was promptly de friended. Well a friend wouldn't try to scam me in so alls good.

Yawn's hit a new low. Excluded from Uber's party and the head office thingy. Her husband doesn't seem to have found work and I'm guessing that losing the TT and the house is getting closer.

I think Yawn was at head office?

She's doing some of brainwashing training sessions, but wasn't at the 'Wild West' shindig that looked as much fun as filing your own fingers off with a cheese grater.

Imagine a world where being excluded from that is a crushing fall from grace.

Yawn is inundated by people wanting to give up their free time for her.

Not

I'm sure the PM's are flooding in.

In a few days she will only have 5 spots available due to popularity so you'd better act fast if you want to donate your time for a little 'talk'.

Confidence building exercise my arse!
If anybody looks like they have too much of that already it is yawn.