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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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NatashaShingles · 05/06/2018 13:02

They can qualify for rally within the first few months if they have big teams. Ticking over 500cc a month say would have you qualified in 3 months so by March. If qualified end of may you would have a total of 300cc a month so an income of around £6,000 a month. They could achieve rally at a higher level as the year progressed

Paddy1234 · 05/06/2018 13:12

So realistically we should see from now onwards qualification for next years rally posts (they definitely will be showing them)

SerenSmith · 05/06/2018 14:40

Anyone’s bots moved over to limelife by alcone? I have 4 on my Facebook (siiiighhh) one of them I’m actually going on a girls weekend with soon :/

There has been much bitchiness between 2 sets of ex poonique presenters who have fallen out in my local area. A purple status has gone to limelife which means that her whole team was given to a fellow purple status which means that she is now a black status presenter by default. AhemI mean obviously coz she worked her biz like a boss babe...

Limelife bots are making lots digs on their lives about poonique but obviously limelife is different blah blah.... #leadwithintegrity is their hashtag. Excuse me whilst I vomit.

Whiterangey · 05/06/2018 15:50

Yawn qualified for next years rally either just before this years rally, or just after. Her Husband broke the news to her, or something, can't remember, but she has definitely qualified. She qualified at the same time last year as well, qualifying for the rally doesn't mean you will get a cheque.

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Whiterangey · 05/06/2018 16:14

The photo Yawn is claiming is from 9 years ago isn't. I'm guessing it's from 2014, based on what is written on the whiteboard, or a year either side. Can't see what is written before so it could be a reference to what she did in 2014 or what she is going to do in 2014, or later in the year in 2014.

She also has pinned on the side of the whiteboard professional made shiny leaflet things with her grinning and holding a bottle of aloe gloop. You wouldn't have done that when you just started.

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rainbowfudgee · 05/06/2018 17:50

Castle BFF 's FB page says 'worked' at FL ie past tense. I think the top bots are accelerated through the stages to qualify- they have been cherry picked as poster girls (and guys) and FL want to promote them as much as possible to show your average Jane next door what they could become.

I watched betting on zero (Netflix) last night. Horrifying but really interesting.

rainbowfudgee · 05/06/2018 17:53

I mean I thought castle's BFF had left FL so was surprised to see she has qualified... maybe she is pretending not to be part of it anymore in order to promote her global bus inessential brand??

Paddy1234 · 05/06/2018 20:22

Just realised how much nepotism goes on in FL - castle bot, Uber etc. Obviously when the going was good they gave all the leads that they couldn't or didn't want to persue to family members so in the next couple of years, complete families will have to adjust. Shame.

Lonelybutnice · 05/06/2018 20:48

Does anybody know how much homeschool got at the global rally? No sign of it on her fb page.

Tupperwarelid · 05/06/2018 20:58

I think she got the same amount as Yawn Grin

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/06/2018 21:22

That's a cheque with many zeros.

Paddy1234 · 05/06/2018 21:26

Scottish success and training day on 16th June - gets your tickets now as its selling fast according to HQ. I may have to eat my words everyone.

Damn my computer seems to be playing up as it shows so far that only 12 people are attending. Mr MD seems to be not having the best year. A company empowering women with all these men in the top jobs ........ and the chief bot of all financing the Anti Gay marriage movement in the US. Not progressive.

Jonsey32 · 05/06/2018 21:58

Is it know of certain people are actually paid by FL? I’m thinking of the poster girls? Castle being a prime example.
She seemed to go from nothing to HUGE amounts in a very fast period of time.
I know these amounts have dropped but they’re still pretty good.
Is she someone who just honestly worked the business very hard and very quickly or did FL sort of support that owing to the fact she gave validity to the scheme as she was a police officer etc....

Spongebobette · 05/06/2018 22:23

I’ve often wondered that. I think they may be protected in some way as they are part of the attraction marketing. Perhaps given a head start in new areas of the world so they can develop lucrative new downlnes? A year or 2 ago several of these women suddenly expanded into new markets at the same time and seemed to focus on one geographical area each.

YouOKHun · 05/06/2018 22:29

SerenSmith Limelight/Life had it’s uk launch today. Where I am we’ve seen a few Maëlle ‘mentors’ finally give up with M and go to LL, the catalyst for this seems to be the discovery that new products in the Maelle range are not vegan (actually, did Maelle even launch again? It’s gone very quiet). The bot I watch is onto her fifth stab at MLM with Limelife. Her husband seems to be well paid so that is keeping her from making a proper critical analysis of just what it’s really costing her/him.

SSDGM · 05/06/2018 22:38

So Salon is now claiming Chinese medicine helped her conceive and keep her pregnancy. Also she’s a fucking saint who is only existing to serve and make people smile every day.

Pull the other one, Salon. Christ you’re tedious.

Paddy1234 · 05/06/2018 23:02

Does anyone notice that Yawn looked noticeably thinner prior to undertaking all the C9's over the years

Whiterangey · 06/06/2018 00:49

@SSDGM Salon was infertile! Before this pregnancy she had 2 kids already and is only 26.

It took her months to conceive which means she has suffered from infertility worse than anyone else in the whole world.

She is taking the piss, I know people who have taken many years to conceive, with heartbreaking losses along the way, multiple failed IVF attempts just to get a baby. Maybe they should have tried her chinese herbal remedy instead, could have saved themselves thousands and got pregnant in 9 days instead of 5 plus years in some cases.

Tosser.

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Whiterangey · 06/06/2018 01:20

@Paddy1234 Yes, she has gotten progressively bigger, she now appears to be the biggest she has ever been.

C9 as we know, is not going to help you lose weight. The initial very impressive weight loss of up to 20lbs in 9 day is nothing but pure water weight. Which is lost through the depletion of glycogen stores and not eating sodium and flushing out sodium.

This was shared here back in January and it really is the best thing i've ever seen and explained very very well. He tells us how the initial weightloss is impressive but why it's a scam and the weight will go straight back on, in a way that anyone can understand. He is awesome. www.facebook.com/teamrhfitness/videos/1588261331264258/

Yawn did lose a substantial amount of weight many years ago. 5 years ago, in January 2013 she brags about having lost 5stone 7lbs in a year and how she's been re-educated on her relationship with food.

There are quite a few photos out there showing her extreme weightloss around that time.

She is now as big as she ever was. There are photos on the facebook page of a recent award ceremony she attended where she didn't win. You can see how big she now is in the photos as they are taken by others and don't have the angles she uses to appear slimmer than she is. She is wearing red.

She started this year off by doing a C9, she appears bigger now than she did then.

It doesn't work, yo-yo dieting doesn't work, quick fix diets don't work, slow and steady and just eating less is the only thing that works, alongside any counselling you may need to change your relationship to food.

As you can see from that video, the C9 is a not a weightloss product, it's a water loss product. It's all bullshit and Yawn is proof of that.

She knows it's bullshit, yet keeps selling it.

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Whiterangey · 06/06/2018 01:23

The awards even that Yawn recently went to and didn't win have changed their name. It should still be searchable under it's old name.

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Norma27 · 06/06/2018 07:09

Poor yawn. Having photos out there which she was not in control of. Showing what she really looks like and proving the c9 does not work.
She didn’t last long in that group did she? Not enough victims falling for her trap.

Lonelybutnice · 06/06/2018 07:12

@Tupperwarelid surely not? I thought her 'business' was enormous? She must've received something? I'm still on her fb and her lifestyle is very extravagant.

NatashaShingles · 06/06/2018 08:09

Salon did a live recently stating that I was paid to witch hunt her. That I had sent her death threats and that I harassed her children.

I think someone has a false sense of importance.

Toobusytowee · 06/06/2018 08:53

When I was going through IVF my fertility clinic made it quite clear we weren’t to use Chinese ‘medicine’ because they found their patients that were using it had worse results than those who didn’t use it.

TrippleFlappyDiamondSparrow · 06/06/2018 09:30

Can someone just stich up Salons mouth and fingers because she's honestly the most irritating person I have ever known. She's so full of self importance it's actually sickening. How can that girl say she has morals and dignity. She has spent years scamming people all so she could get her next cheque. She's digusting and how she isn't behind bars yet just shocks me.