MLM Bot Watch 39 - After taking a year off we are back with no cheque, no hope, but new products!

[Whiterangey]

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I think it's skincare, Hanzz & Heidi. Due to launch in September. It's all about happiness and empowerment, apparently.

Yawn’s post is directly opposite to the live rant by Bradford a few months ago where she told her downline to stop expecting her to do everything for them as it was their own business and she didn’t want to hear their moaning when it wasn’t working. If it didn’t work it wasn’t her problem.

😂😂

@SSDGM Indeed - although Yawn couldn't resist getting the sly dig in at the end about if her downline don't take advantage of her amazing training then it's their fault!

vimeo.com/265150953

This is the link to the video. I can't wait to see which Flp bots go over.

After a bit more digging the founder of what's being dubbed as ' The Happiness Company' is Sven Goebal, former Vice President and partner at juice plus! Hmmm, smells fishy to me.

What's happened to Rasherbot? Her bizniz page hasn't been updated for ages and I can't find her personal page anymore....

@dickiedavisthunderthighs - Looks like she's got a new page (insert middle name initial'M'), possibly to distance herself from the usitech crypto ponzi she was pushing.

Still seems to be peddling Valentus.

Don’t tell the bride bot (used to be a fl bot) now lives in Switzerland and is the marketing/branding guru for the Swiss MLM. Not sure if anyone remembers him?

It’s the “outstanding opportunity”, of course. That’s the phrase that’s sends the MLM bullshit meter all the way to the red end. That and the fact that there is no mention of what this Swiss-based (oooo) company is making or doing.
And why can’t these people see the lie in plain sight when they launch a new MLM and talk about how so many top earners from other mlm’s Are leaving their MLM and getting involved in a new one. Hello! What happened to their unlimited residual income. Why would they suddenly leave “the best company ever”? Just goes to show I guess how effective the MLM -brainwashing- mindset-training (can’t seem to do the strike through) is at shutting down people’s evaluative abilities.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs - was thinking of another rasher bot, sorry!

Tupperware I remember him. A graphic designer who quickly realised there was more money in designing branding for his fellow fl bots than in flogging aloe. I knew he had gone on get a job abroad off the back of all that design and branding work but not that it was another mlm.

Anyone know of any flexible or part-time, from home, work opportunities I can pass onto those who may otherwise fall into the traps of MLM?

I think that really, no matter how much campaigning we do against MLM, it will never entirely go away or lose its appeal unless there is a real alternative.

In this day and age with so many well-qualified, driven women wanting to keep a career going/keep earning a decent wage alongside being a mum, and most of us being able to do our work from anywhere thanks to technology, there must be some genuine opportunities out there? It would save so much money both for the employer (unnecessary office space, paying for presenteeism rather than actual work) and the employee (commuting costs etc.) and it seems like things should have moved faster in this direction than they actually have. Or am I missing where to find these roles?

I see this question posted online every other day and apart from slogging your guts out starting your own business (not everyone wants to be an entrepreneur) or playing Russian roulette with an MLM, there just seems to be tumbleweed. This can't still be the case?

I know 7 people close to me I can count right now who are absolutely desperate for genuine work around their kids, who have been scarred by MLMs, just want to actually work and keep a career going from home, and have to basically choose between trying another MLM/going on benefits due to childcare costs if they work/working full time away from home and paying someone else for childcare when they'd really rather do it themselves/struggling with setting themselves up as freelance or a business when they actually just want a normal job/etc. It's becoming an issue quite close to my heart.

Thoughts?

Yawn is so full of bollocks.

She showed a fellow mum and fitness instructor the oppurtunity today and was shocked that if the mum doesn't work she doesn't get paid and how scary that is.

She then starts to wonder how many other people have incomes that are reliant on them working every single day and how having a back up, a security blanket is priceless.

Says the person who got no cheque this year because she apparently took a year off last year. She she didn't get paid because she didn't work.

Although she worked her tits off, it's just that Forever Living is going downhill fast in the UK and incomes from it are declining and will continue that decline.

It may be, Mie, that there simply aren't enough opportunities of the type you describe.

@Whiterangey - Same for her, is she doesn't sell any gloopy crap, or recruit more people she won't get any money either, it's a shame she doesn't have a back up of herself. If FLP goes tits up, no house, no cars, is also a prospect that I wouldn't like to be in either.

Funny that Yawn, a J.O.B. gives you weekends, holiday, maternity and sick pay.

You could use your spare time to renovate (I use the term loosely) a cottage and still get a cheque at the end of every month...

@twentytwentyhindsight there are two of them?! I don't think my heart can take it!!

The one I'm thinking off did a high profile flounce from one MLM to another. She's gone VERY quiet.

I fully believe that it's a given that she will lose her house and her cars, obviously the cars go when she loses her car bonus, although she may try and pay for them by herself when that goes.

We have the timeless vie article from a couple of years ago saying what was going to happen with FL in the UK, then Bot Watch came out with an article last week confirming that prediction was coming true.

Yawn and Castle will go first, keeping up their lifestyle and mortgage and car payments will be more than their income. Some on Yawn's level are already moving homes because they can no longer afford the expensive homes they bought when FLP UK was on the up.

I believe Yawn is struggling at the moment, likely trying to remember which credit card has space whenever she goes to buy something. If she's not there yet, she will be soon.

Castle will take a little bit longer, but the same thing will happen to her. Uber will survive a bit longer as her cheques were a lot bigger, but she has spent huge amounts on buying her house and on the renovations, chucking money at it like it was water.

A bit like a lottery winner who spends spends spends, then find they have nothing left.

As the new recruits, the people on the very bottom of the definitelynotapyramid, become less, the level above becomes less. With not enough new recruits coming in, basic bots cannot get a downline in order to get to the next level. This means that those already on the next level cannot get to the one above as the one below them cannot get a downline, and so on. Bots who have had a couple of promotions are leaving and the bots below them just can't get enough new recruits to replace the person who has left at that level.

It's collapsing.

Although Forever Living and your success within is totally not based on recruitment it's all about sales, so lack of recruitment really should affect anyone.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs I know who you mean, she went from FL to Ariiiiiiiiiiiiiiix. Her personal page has been gone for about a week. I think she may have gone on to something new, again.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs - Yes, there are two bots with the same surname - the one of whom you speak, who has gone very quiet, and the one I mention below, who is still doing Valentus.

Mislabel, I identified the lack of flexible working as a problem. I put together some ideas for working from home or working around the family. I should probably add to it now as the article is a bit old. I know The Talented Ladies have written a lot of helpful articles on the subject that I should link to.

Here is what I wrote. botwatch.blog/2016/05/20/in-need-of-alternative-extra-income/

I’m happy to add anything else people can suggest.

The funny thing is I remember at one of the Wednesdays (and at most time she stood in front of potentials) at the Warwick Head Office that Yawn was telling all these new potential bots that when she was struggling she had to flick between credit cards to remember which one had money on to buy food from Tesco's. When it didn't work in one store she went to another store and used another credit card to save her embarrassment.

A few observations since getting back from Dallas:

• there's been no mention of, or photo opportunities of, the children or the dogs and cat from Yawn (that cat better be alright as I worried that she thought it was integrated into "the pack" in 5 minutes).

-Yawns BFF has gone silent for about 3 weeks

-Yawn and Roomie no longer seem to be acknowledging each other on fb

Wonder what's going on? All part of the crumbling pyramid

Woah, I've just came across the difference between Lanza and castle's cheques from 2016 and 2018!! I know I'm late to the party with this one but I didn't realise the drop was so dramatic. Particularly for Lanza.

Have you come across the difference in Yawn's cheques too?

Just in case you haven't it's:

2016 - cheque
2018 - NO CHEQUE (that's right, zilch, big fat zero, bugger all)