MLM Bot Watch 36 - Those who think it's ok to tell white lies soon become colourblind

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36 Lies to reel you in...

1. They will tell you that you will have time freedom in this business. Two weeks later they will tell you the business won't work unless you do.

When it's a business event they will not accept excuses for you missing it and will set an example by missing their child's first birthday or telling you a story of how they once shit themselves in white trousers on the front row at success day because they were poorly but didn't want to miss it.... You will know quickly that the unspoken rules is 'no excuses on success day's.

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Sounds like a contractual offer to me...

... Especially as she is saying you can "jump straight in" at the level you want to be.. Is she going to pay those as salaries to the 3 places she is offering?

Sleaze is about, but only commenting on posts on Wig's timeline.
Wig has replied to one post talking about "not getting scammed and losing our valuable coins again"...

Brokebot has been bragging that he is has been on the “world top ten leaderboard” of his travel MLM since joining. I don’t believe anyone will have been foolish enough to part with serious money to book a holiday with that clown. Ergo, the whole thing is a recruitment pyramid.

I'm sure if he had booked a holiday he would be all over his fb with it. But Huns he is a proper travel agent aha!

Apologies for barging in. I’m a long time lurker who has had first-hand experience of the destructive effects of MLM as a FL widower. Thanks to all on here who have helped me make sense of it all and given a forum for fighting back.

@ sparkleyes, he paid £23 for a course and has got a certificate and everything!

‘Product recommenders’ ha ha haa

This means: buy all the products you can so you can demo them and try to flog some
Meaning you spend money!! Because, guess what, YOU are the customer!

Why won’t the company provide samples for their ‘product recommenders’, why do they have to sink their own money in??

It does very much look like Yawn has made illegal income claims.

A product recommender will earn between £200 - £400 per month.

I recommend you use anything but forever living products.

When do I get my money? I guess I have to wait for Fri-pay.

@SSDGM so it's more of a pyramid scheme than an MLM as I haven't seen one single holiday sold, and that would be something they would be boasting about everywhere.

Oh yes, the page I posted the screen shot of last night has been going since last year and there is not a single holiday offer or customer testimonial on it. Just “what’s your favourite hotel?” “Wouldn’t you like to be a travel agent?” Crap.

Welcome, Twenty.

Thanks Cozie, will do my best not to unload too much of the negativity here, there’s a lot bottled up.

@twentytwentyhindsight is your oh still involved in FL? Would be interested to hear your story.

@Tizzle, unfortunately yes, after eight years of making less then a part-time minimum wage job, racking up credit card debts, coming into an inheritance that is being spent on ‘faking it’, and now doing a job that’s based on working mainly evenings & weekends to actually pay the bills, she is far enough down the rabbit hole that FL is still “an amazing opportunity to earn an uncapped income while being there for my kids”...

Oh so sorry @Twenty

Were Wig 'n Sleaze involved in Usi? There's talk of contracts being put out on the dark web for the Bots right at the top. 😳 I see Brokebot's Ex has neatly stepped away from it (again) and is now flogging something else and rowing with Brokebot via Facebook. I'd love to see the contents of her group chats.

@ Sponge, shit happens and you deal with it. However, our kids have been denied otherwise attainable stuff (e.g. holidays), and the chance of debt-free study (although I blame the govt. for being at the root of that).
Although I harbour a deep resentment for my OH and her actions, she is a victim, although she doesn’t know it.

I'm so sorry, Twenty. Is she showing not a trace of 'awareness'?

Nope. The anger I feel means that I tend to avoid the conversation in order not to end up shouting. On the few occasions I have been able to raise it, it is clear that the ‘Law of attraction’ mindset training kicks in and the shutters come down, any point being made is dispatched to the ‘negativity that must be avoided’ place. I have become used to it, but it is quite startling how a sensible, rational person can end up so far down a place where up is down, good is bad, and spending money you don’t have will make you rich...

WigNSleaze were INDEED pushers of USI. I have messages from Wig to prove it. Don’t think they were anywhere near the top though. Brokie’s Ex was in deep too - claimed it paid for her Disney holiday with first class flights for her & her children.

But yet you stay with it, Twenty? (You must have been sore tempted to 'cut your losses' and move out with the kids? )

It’s a moot point Cozie. Following redundancy from a relatively well paid manual job a few years ago, I now am now self-employed in a completely different line of work, and making enough money to get by, albeit the extras were predicated on my OH working. We live as separate lives as we can in a small flat, while trying not to let in to the kids that we don’t have a relationship. We cannot afford to run two households and I do not trust her rationality if it came to a solution where she would (ideally) move out. Despite being an ‘independent business owner’, she could not even afford a bedsit. So we endure.

Is it 'enduring' and staying stable, financially, though - or is it enduring and going slowly downhill?

It’s certainly not getting any better, neither is it likely to. Still, it’s hard to see any alternatives at the moment. (Unless her ‘biznis’ suddenly takes off and she starts making ‘six figures monthly’, pigs start flying and we can live separate lives). But enough of this for now please, it remains raw, if not fresh. I do mean to share the full experience if it can help bring down the scourge of MLM, but I am only just coming out- I need a bit of time to find my feet.

No problem, Twenty. We're here to talk to. (As is Elle Beau's blog to read - have you dipped into that yet?)