MLM Bot Watch 35 how to lose friends and alienate people with Younique Forever Living Juice Plus Arbonne Crypto currency and tea and coffee MLM cults

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Thread 34 may be no more;
Thread 35 is quite alive.

Let's make sure it stays that way.

This thread is here to expose the garageful of lies pedalled by multi level marketing (network marketing) schemes, i.e outrageous health claims, unlimited wealth and residual earnings, to name but a few.

#sackthebot

@Whiterangey the hype is it is brand new to the UK, phenomenal weightloss products all approved and clinically tested. Free to join.

Drinking aloe shots at networking groups.
There’s a surprise!

Are the people from
Networking Mummies going to deny their organisation is being used for recruitment and sales for Yawn’s MLM now?

Christ on a bike.

A networking group where everyone takes a laxative - now I've heard everything. Even better: a networking group headed up by a laxative saleswoman.

Where do I sign up?

Well they are all full of shit

could some one remind me about the grimsby salon person on pm please.

That was a god awful way of meeting new people, chuck some gunk down their them.

A diamond Vida Bot has hung up his tea bags this week, with big hints about his new business. Vida has gone very quiet lately. Keeping their heads low due to the tea and health claims being illegal?

My money is on the teeth MLM.

A Younique bot who has apparently hit the big time has had her child booted from nursery for non payment of fees

Networking Mummies need to either decide whether any practise is acceptable and fully endorse MLM (they may get short term growth and expansion, but long term consequence is non MLM business owners turning away from it) or at least have a code of conduct where MLM owners cannot use the meetings as a recruitment and sales drive. I feel bad for the non MLMers at the coffee morning, like they would have been able to politely refuse the aloe shot without looking ‘unsupportive’.

There weren't many of them in that photo, which says a lot.

I wonder how many of them were already involved in MLM?
It may well have only been bots that went.

Can you imagine though if you went along to an event like this as a genuine business owner and found that all the others were peddling aloe, lash-clogging mascara or weight-loss coffee. You'd never be tempted to attend a "networking" event ever again.

I went to a local business networking event this week that is mostly local mums. For the first time ever, we had two bots there - Arbunne and some travel consultant. Both paled in comparison to all the legit business owners particularly as there were a few there that manufacture their own vegan cosmetics.

I honestly don't understand the travel consultant bollocks. It's so easy to search online for holidays, hotels, tours etc so why go to someone who's obviously going to get you a shitty deal as they and their uplines need to take their cut of it?

One of the national business networking breakfast meetings limits MLMs to one Rep per alleged business and they're not allowed to recruit - they can only talk about the products. My friend was amused to find a Juice Plus Rep, an Arbonne hun and a Forever Living bot sitting at a table on their own. People who know they're network marketers keep a polite distance and think they're a bit of a joke.

A friend's husband belongs to a business networking group in our town and he said MLM bots are not taken seriously at all.

There are some fantastic, successful businesses here that have been built from scratch, many of them (including what I would consider the top 3 independent successes in town) started up and run by women.

*They are the true business owners (they are not sales reps)
*They employ people and pay them (not recruit them and take a cut of their meagre income)
*They make their own business decisions (and are not directed by upline/HQ)
*They are respected (not ridiculed)
*They have customers /clients who go to them because they want to, because they are good at what they do and offer a great product /service not because they are bullied into it or because they pity them)
*They don't find it necessary to present a fake lifestyle

What are the health benefits of a shot of aloe meant to be?

I know it's useful if you are constipated as it is a laxative, other than that is there anything?

Nope

The laxative effect is the only thing they are allowed to say it does

I must say I’m seeing far fewer of the outrageous medical claims from Forever Living reps, they used to be all over FB.

I wonder if that is because they are afraid of what happened to Valentus happening to them.

Networking Mummies has 2 MLMers running a marketing strategy workshop. One of those 2 is in Forever and has her own Networking Mummies franchise. That is 4 Forever Living bots who I know of who now have a Networking Mummies franchise. They also all seem to be connected.

Dora, thanks for bringing this up as I've meant to talk about this a few times on here and never got round to it.

I think there's a phase of 'business coaching' which is a pyramid scheme. I see it all the time on my FB, it seems to be very popular in the USA but is making its mark here now too. You get women who promise to show you how to quit your job, live free, everything MLMs tell you, but it is under the guise of becoming a business coach. You need to pay anywhere between £1000 to £8000 from what I've seen on my own newsfeed to work with one of these coaches. They essentially show you how to do what they are doing, charging obscene prices with no actual qualifications and to teach others to do the same. They are also always HEAVILY into 'mindset', Law of Attraction, affirmations, etc.

Anyone else come across these? I'd love to give examples but not sure if I'm allowed to mention names here.

I honestly don't understand the travel consultant bollocks. It's so easy to search online for holidays, hotels, tours etc so why go to someone who's obviously going to get you a shitty deal as they and their uplines need to take their cut of it?

That scheme is SO expensive to join. Really really expensive. The "training" initially looks more legit as you pysically go on a course so I think people think theyre actually getting qualified in something. Theres no "hun"ing so it doesnt feel mlm-ey on first glance.

Just been reading a blog post on the Networking Mummies website which praises the power of networking.

It focuses on Forever Living bots and how bots signed up other bots and that was a success and it's all thanks to Networking Mummies.

How lovely.

The article is from 2010 and none of the bots mentioned are working for forever living, and appear not to have been for a very long time.

Looks like they were in the 99.7% of people who sign up for MLM's who don't make any money.

Looks like salon is still working for valentus. Perhaps it’s supposed to be hush hush.

The ‘Business’ coaches, ‘Mindset’ coaches... they spout utter rubbish and charge a fortune. Quite often they’ll do a ‘free’ team training for a big bot (I can think of a few who did so for Salon) and then the big bot will encourage their team to sign up to some crazily expensive course with the coach who did the free session.

Remember to invest in you, huns!!!!

@Jonsey32 I'd be tempted to send that to Trading Standards.