MLM Bot Watch 21 - chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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Welcome all to the new thread

That's a fair point, Seenthelight. Can you work out the process now?

Yes I can now I'm out of it

In my opinion it was quite subtle I had no idea it was happening!
As I said the other day the way I have been treated since I left really helped me take the blinkers off!

I have never felt more free since getting out of the Aloe Cult!!!!

Well yes if you're going to have a cult, you definitely need to ostracise people who have left. That's cult 101 that is.

It's the training
The business presentations
The isolation of 'negative family and friends '
The team pages
The way they treat you like family and make you feel important but the minute you wish to leave & you no longer benefitting them they drop you like a hot potatoe. Its then you know it's all fake!

I have been totally ostracised as have many others

You might consider writing a piece for Timeless Vie or BotWatchBlog? It might help others as well as yourself. (To get it all down.)

I am so glad I have found you all I could actually cry! My friend has been sucked into this cactus sperm shit I cannot bear it!!

Good to have you posting.

And Yes - you can bear it. Have you read Timeless Vie and BotWatchBlog yet?

J, what stage is your friend at? Has she just joined?

You were thinking about people who care about you are worried?

Yes Cozie. That's a good one I think for if someone has had a launch party and is starting to sound a bit botted.

If they have very recently started, this might be a good one- botwatchblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/03/mlm-expectation-vs-reality/

If they are bottled to the eyeballs, drop the Great Ormond Street one on them and run.

botwatchblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/forever-living-using-sick-children-great-ormond-street-hospital-and-a-charity-to-make-unsubstantiated-health-claims/

Most MLM adherents can't last long, though? What's the general 'churn rate' ?

Latest comment from nethuns thread.

Stopfaffing - tell her to go and do something useful with her life FFS.

J did she get a huuuuuuuge cheque?

Then it may be (temporarily) too late, J. My own thought is that there comes a point when you can't easily reach them. If she was a true and valued friend, you'll just have to be there for when it crashes around her - someone else recommended keeping things going by only commenting on/ putting forward things unconnected with her new endeavour, to keep the connection going on ordinary matters and maintain some sort of link. So that when she needs to return, there's a 'road' ready and waiting.

That needs a great deal of strength and steadfastness, though. Is the relationship worth it to you do you think?

That's the question. It was, it really was. But I fear it isn't any more. Which is sad

It is sad. Your call, I fear. (You may not be able to maintain things with her.)

Has she approached you about the business J?

It would hard to comment on non forever stuff as everything is geared towards forever with these people. Even what you think is non forever is her "selling" her lifestyle

I fear you cannot rescue your friend J. She will have to find out for herself how wrong it is. We kind of need to work like the bots and find her leaving hot button. We don't know what it would take for her to leave.

We could hope she has doubts and the rally cheque has been disappointingly low. But it could also be encouraging her to try harder.

Your best bet is to maintain a link with her, don't cut her off. Refuse to engage about her 'business'. Change the subject if she initiates a conversation.

And then just wait for when she leaves. They all leave sooner or later.

This old blog post has been updated and is a good source of information on the DSA if anyone is interested.

Very 'thought provoking'.

mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/the-direct-selling-association-dsa-is.html?m=1

It's surely a hard road, Nolonger. I guess that every time she writes something, you would just have to reply with a real-life comment/story even if it didn't seem to fit with the message flow.

(I think that I would recommend restricting the relationship to messaging/texting while she was still adhering though. No face to face stuff or telephone conversations.)