MLM Bot Watch 19 - chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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throwingpebbles you made me choke on my drink because I was laughing

I'm curious- the 5am thing- what are you supposed to do at that time in the morning? Planning?

My 13 year old dog must be selling Forever behind my back. Anyway I'm bitter as I worked all weekend and I'm bloody knackered. I haven't started work yet today though, please everyone tell me to get off the internet.

Interesting about this thread and Timeless vie being watched ao obsessively by the top bots... Why? When their business is so great and wonderful and superduper successful and they are #sograteful???

Oops Rae

Well if they start at 5am and finish a Shizzle and get home at midnight that's 19 hours!

You set the 'requirements' to remove any time which might be spent on thinking, Rae. (In an undirected sense that is.) I doubt it really matters what exactly you do at 5am as long as it's MLM-focussed.

Throwingpebbles that's really made me Chuckle!!!

Rae you are meant to do your mindset training, prepare your posts for the day, contact your 5-a-day (I did question will people not think it strange bloody annoying that I work from home for myself and I am messaging them so early. Exercise.

#sograteful? well on that score it seems some bots were full on faking it... One or two bots we know got cheques that were clearly a lot smaller than expected, if the footage is anything to go by! Fascinating to see them grimace/fake tears of joy, their way through the palpable dissapointment! Bless them! Its almost like you could see the reality hit them. Its ok though, Im sure they will keep on plugging away and have the negativity bullied out of them by their lovely foreverfriends 😞

Wow delurker I had heard similar stories, but its interesting to have yet more confirmation of it... How horrible, I thought it was all about sisterhood, empowerment and being the best you you can be etc... These stories VERY much contradict that....

Thanks confused

I can confirm that I would be if someone contacted me at 5am. Doesn't exactly scream wildly successful to me.

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I think I know who you refer to? That video was a car crash and the bot was stunned (not in a good way) Poor Bot 😢

De lurking you make some excellent revelations but fear post where you have mentioned a particular bot will probably get deleted.

Its because shes a shill, delurker, those of us not in it can see that. Shes the poster girl. Shes there to get new recruits forking out for the business in a box even if thats as far as they get. Thats how it works. I'd love to know what % of turnover is the business in a box, I expect its big. And its why they got so upset about the TV videos exposing the truth. You can't argue with it. Shes there on camera, wildly contradicting herself depending on who the audience is.

Delurker yes I have heard castlebot say all of that too, although she's not the only one.
Thing is as well that there was a funny post on a large group saying "we value the activity more than the CC's" ummmmm really? Cos I have been made to feel terrible and berated for not doing my 4cc early in the month!

See I don't know if you are aware but once you are a manager and one of your direct team becomes a manager you no longer get 100% of their CC's - you get 40% of a first generation manager's CC's, 20% of a second generation manager's CC's and 10% of a third gen manager. And then you don't get paid outside the third manager deep (your Payline). That is what makes it really hard to qualify for things as your CC's drop when you break managers. You earn most from people lower down the marketing plan. Until a manager "goes active" you don't see their True CC's (it shows the full amount) so a lot of times you are shooting in the dark as you may think you have 150CC's and then a manager goes active on the last day of the month and it drops back to 80! So that is what causes a lot of managers to argue wit their down line managers!

Yes we saw the unimpressive cheque video this morning, it was like,

relay yes, it truly was a car crash... You could almost see her heart breaking. Not good, not good at all! Actually felt really sad for her.

Another quick reminder we can't even mention our own nicknames for Bots! Your posts will be removed, I won't report because it's been done already I suspect

I know that Confused. But some simple maths or maybe a message to your downline could clear that up, it's not hard to figure out 40% and 20%.
This is why people are berated if they are not in 100 club. If you are not building your open business then again you are not serious.
I had the displeasure of listening to a 2 1/2 hour call where basically this was all that was discussed. People came off that call feeling deflated and like a failure because they weren't in 100 club therefore their business was but sustainable and they were not working hard enough.

When actually this is all smoke and mirrors because their own bonuses had dropped where more managers had come through, so due to the % drop they DEMAND managers continue to build, not for the managers, but for THEIR bonus.
They call it protecting their business. I call it, bullying people.

sorry I didn't know nicknames weren't allowed.
I shall remove post and re-write.

I'm just posting confused post again as contains useful info - just without the first sentence.

Today 12:17 confusedbot

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Thing is as well that there was a funny post on a large group saying "we value the activity more than the CC's" ummmmm really? Cos I have been made to feel terrible and berated for not doing my 4cc early in the month!

See I don't know if you are aware but once you are a manager and one of your direct team becomes a manager you no longer get 100% of their CC's - you get 40% of a first generation manager's CC's, 20% of a second generation manager's CC's and 10% of a third gen manager. And then you don't get paid outside the third manager deep (your Payline). That is what makes it really hard to qualify for things as your CC's drop when you break managers. You earn most from people lower down the marketing plan. Until a manager "goes active" you don't see their True CC's (it shows the full amount) so a lot of times you are shooting in the dark as you may think you have 150CC's and then a manager goes active on the last day of the month and it drops back to 80! So that is what causes a lot of managers to argue wit their down line managers!

Thanks Delurker

Because of exposure.
People are beginning to speak out about the awful way they are treated.
A certain top bot won't give you the time of day if you aren't 4cc active, and will often post in her managers page that any Manager who is not 4cc active within the first week of the month is a) not taking their business seriously enough and b) has no respect for their up line.
This has been discussed many many times with anyone who is opposing it basically shut down and told it 'will not be discussed again as her feelings have been made clear'.
It's very similar to a dictatorship. You are sold a fluffy business with lots of clapping and hugging when in reality you are spoken to and treated like a child, your opinion is invalid and if you disagree it's because of your #mindset #hun.
Or the best one I heard is that the person must have deep rooted issues and maybe they need to seek help. Or maybe you are just egotistical and cannot bare when someone disagrees with you.

Has anyone seen the tragicomedic clip of a certain bot receiving her cheque? It's clearly not as much as she was hoping for, a measly $5,000 where she looks horrified and devastated. All that hard work, selling her soul, for about the amount she's probably spent in one month on rent.

I missed the video! Could you pm me?

name changer - been here for ages etc...rakes will know me

last night i had three theories about a certain person who was in the paper and her cheque

1 - she is being compensated for the newspaper article and she has threatened to leave and spill the fucking beans
2 - she is now (because of the newspaper) the most high profile bot so as they have already said "all publicity is good publicity" so she is being feted as a "success"
3 - cant remember as i was in the bath and DH wanted to recreate "shitbot" so i had to get out ASAP and that played havoc with my thought process...