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MLM Bot Watch 16 - Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes

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stopfaffing · 19/03/2016 15:36

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cozietoesie · 21/03/2016 11:50

Bonuses, Kanga. Bonuses! ( I wouldn't wish to imply that it's whether your face fits divided/multiplied by the quarter of the moon - but the rules are certainly complex. Smile)

Eyespying · 21/03/2016 12:02

The midnight weeping with joy session after the dramatic revelation of £8000 profits proving the realisation of financial salvation via the exact duplication of the step-by-step-plan, is obviously a well-rehearsed, unsubstantiated, 'MLM' BS parable which Natasha Shingles has recited so many times, that she totally believes it to be the truth.

thetemptationofchocolate · 21/03/2016 12:17

At the beginning of this thread Lemming asked for the Bot Ten Commandments.
Here they are but as I am not God talking to Moses I will allow suggestions for improvements to them :)

  1. Thou shalt not espouse any other MLM
  2. Thou shalt not have a life (or any fun at all) outside your bizniz
  3. Thou shalt not take the name of Rex your God in vain
  4. Remember the Success Day to keep it holy
  5. Honour thy upline, and thy upline's upline
  6. Thou shalt have no ideas of your own. Or a beard.
  7. Thou shalt not commit negativity
  8. Thou shalt not lie (in public)
  9. Thou shalt not deviate from the script
10. Thou shalt not covet thy upline's income
DollyTwat · 21/03/2016 12:38

Most of that's on this FL slide

MLM Bot Watch 16 - Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes
Eyespying · 21/03/2016 12:48

Our Rex which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy MLM kingdom come.
Thy MLM will be done in earth,
as it is in MLM heaven.
Sell us this day our daily aloe.
And forgive us our negative trespasses,
as we forgive those
who negative trespass against us.
And lead us not into negative temptation,
but deliver us from negative evil:
For thine is the MLM kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
Forever (and ever) Living.
Amen.

Gimlet1984 · 21/03/2016 12:49

More rubbish from Natasha yes to hit manager you need 120cc it's on your company's handbook so that's around 60 people who have to join because you get 2cc for each new distributor you sign up. Further more, again, as part of your company's policy to maintain the status of senior manager which you purport to be on your website you have to maintain 720cc a year from either recruiting or selling products. So either you sign up another 360 people each year or you sell £120,000 pounds of aloe products. You can't dispute this it's here in the book.

www.foreverknowledge.info/fileadmin/documents/2015-downloads/Company_Policy_-_September_9_2015.pdf

cozietoesie · 21/03/2016 12:55

It's so designedly complex that I actually prefer to think in more general terms, Gimlet ie Lots of money comes in, a Little of it goes to Some distributors, and The Rest?...............

There's no need, I reckon, to look generally at detailed figures - the Big Picture is far more revealing. Smile

rayofhope · 21/03/2016 13:22

gimlet it is definitely designed to be complex and hard to understand. But on your way to making manager, any cc's your team do count in your cc's. So you wouldn't need to recruit that many people to hit manager.

The average is recruiting approx 15-25 people into your team to get to manager. I remember being told at lot hit manager with 23 people.

So say you've signed up 2 people in one month, that's 4cc's you've got, but the next month you sign up 2 more, and the ones from the previous month do the same, all their cc's count. (after all it's all about duplication, and teaching them to do the same - one of the top ones called it 'monkey see, monkey do)

You - 4cc's (2cc each from mo and jo)

Next month
You recruit 2 more plus 1 retail that's 5cc
Mo from previous month does the same so 5cc
Jo from previous month does the same so 5cc too

That means you did a total of 15cc in one month as theirs count in your total.

But this then changes once you're manager and you have a manager leg in your team (just to make it that slightly harder)

Eyespying · 21/03/2016 13:23

cozietoesie & Gimlet When the DTI investigators were interviewing arrogant Ambot shills, and ignorant 'Amway UK' company officers, in 2007, they asked them to explain the so-called 'payment plan' in simple terms, but no one could.

Once you know that little, or no, money flows into 'MLM' rackets from sources other than the participants themselves, the endless complication involved in all so-called 'MLM payment plans', is revealed as mystifying BS which has no real function other than to shut down the critical faculties of 'MLM' victims, and those of casual observers.

Imagine if we took 100 children and persuaded them each to place a pound coin on a table on the pretext we had a magic formula which could enable them to get back more money than they put down. Unless we really do have miraculous powers, then no matter how we divide up the resulting £100, the very most each child could hope to get back, would be what he/she started with.

If you just take this scenario one step further and persuade the children that they can follow a magic step-by-step plan which will enable them to get more money back than they put down, you begin to realise how easy it is to make them believe that they didn't follow the plan correctly and that their failure to get more money back, must have been entirely their own fault. Self-evidently, the more complex the magic plan, the easier it becomes to fool the children and to convince them they were to blame. If you give some money to a few a exemplary children, and convince them that the magic plan really does work, but only if you follow it to the letter, the trick becomes even more convincing and fiendish.

AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads · 21/03/2016 13:24

Hang on, I thought Natasha had no idea about her accounts, because she hasn't got a head for numbers or some other bullshit?

And now, obviously she knows her accounts.

Again, same old same old.

1gorgeousson · 21/03/2016 14:43

Anyone else seen this type of thing? Or know what it is?

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Twunk · 21/03/2016 14:48

That looks worrying 1gorgeousson

Kanga59 · 21/03/2016 14:53

Get yourself added to the group and fill us in

Eyespying · 21/03/2016 14:53

1gorgeousson It could be 'Lyoness,' because this Austrian-based 'MLM' racket, often claims not to be an 'MLM,' and it hides behind a 'cash back card' which, in theory, can be used in retail outlets, to buy any traditional products including food.

However, it's also likely to be this.

Or even this.

kamchatka23 · 21/03/2016 14:55

Is it something like this?

barenakedscam.com/shopping-sherlock

AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads · 21/03/2016 14:56

Doesn't utility warehouse do a cashback card?

cozietoesie · 21/03/2016 15:05

Couldn't that advertising video be said to be 'knocking copy', Eye? I thought that that was a No No. Smile

holdontoyourbutts · 21/03/2016 15:16

Gorgeous I've seen that one float around the last week or so, I think it might be something to do with these guys:

lifetreeworld.com/

Suspiciously there is absolutely no information available on the website whatever, aside from loads of smiley happy people holding 'create your own future with this unique opportunity' boards.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a reverse funnel system...

throwingpebbles · 21/03/2016 16:57

A duck... Grin

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1gorgeousson · 21/03/2016 17:22

Think the post got deleted I can't find it again. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next time!

stopfaffing · 21/03/2016 17:23

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Well done Smile

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