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MLM Bot Watch 14- Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes, Bot

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Melaw21 · 14/03/2016 13:08

Welcome!

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Bananasmel · 14/03/2016 23:25

Penny that's amazing. Grin

Melaw21 · 14/03/2016 23:26

now, talking of reasons why 'individuals' are sometimes highlighted, shall we all cast our minds back to the 'curing of cancer through mindset alone' bollocks that one 'bot' in particular was keenly churning out? Until the naughty internet bullies told the bot off for it... Just a little trip down memory lane for everyone there!

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Patzy85 · 14/03/2016 23:27

Darcey hit the nail on the head with the ambot nicknaming.

Check this out marriedtoanambot.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1

LeanneBattersby · 14/03/2016 23:28

If you put yourself on a stage, speak publicly, nominate yourself for awards, if you present a wealthy, fabulous lifestyle in order to recruit other people to do the same job as you then you become a public figure. And should those things you present as fact turn out not to be fact, but instead to simply be a manipulation of the truth in order to get other people to sign on the dotted line in order to make you money, then damn right you should expect people to call you out on it.

And if you make public claims about a product that are untested, or simply not true or, in lots of cases (cure for cancer, anyone?) downright dangerous, then you should absolutely expect people to call you out on it, and you should expect the ASA to come knocking.

And if you're the public face of that company, and you make a shed load of cash, not of the products you sell, out of simply being the public face of that company, then again, you should expect your work to be scrutinised.

I don't think remarks about people's personal appearance are on, but out of 14 threads, I think there's been ONE personal remark, that was jumped on and shut down.

So where's the bullying? The person who claims she's being bullied is doing so to undermine the fantastic journalistic research that has been done on these threads. The industry has many questions to answer that would never even have been asked if it weren't for the good people here.

In my field, I'm a public face. Everything I do is scrutinised, criticised, belittled, by members of the public within seconds of me doing it. Have I ever thought it was bullying? Have I bollocks. I just take it on the chin and never read the comments

Bananasmel · 14/03/2016 23:30

It's okay. Fabulous Eyebrows has got over it. I've just seen one of her latest posts.

She is back coaching people about the business of which what is involved is seldom mentioned.

#pmmehun

Aloedofcrap · 14/03/2016 23:33

Well said Leanne 👏🏻👏🏻

throwingpebbles · 14/03/2016 23:36

penny Grin

Bananasmel · 14/03/2016 23:37

Forever is like a fishing rod. One of the fabulous ladies teamies is always posting about #lovewhatido then posts like "working flexibly" picture of laptop in field. Also she is targeting baby groups. Like a fishing rod....some people will take the bait.

Twunk · 14/03/2016 23:38

they even call themselves "public figures" on Facebook!

Then complain that they are ummmmm public.

None of us are PIs - we don't have superpowers or access to the dark net (well we don't know about Eyes he strikes me as a shadowy figure). If we can find out info in 2 minutes ANYONE CAN.

Bananasmel · 14/03/2016 23:39

I agree Leeanne. You are correct. Flowers

orchidnap · 14/03/2016 23:40

wow just caching up on the last 2 (!! these threads move so fast!) and still in absolute speechless shock at some of the catlebot vids. The one that really stands out is the one where she is talking to americans (at 3am!!) and says she now has a 6 figure income, or 7 figures if youre in the USA.

so the lowest 7 figure USD income has aGBP conversion of £700,204.11

So she reckons she makes £58k a month??

er... ok then. Hmm

also i only know catlebots PLEASE can someone tell me who the others are?

Twunk · 14/03/2016 23:41

Don't get me started on MMS throwing - the idea of people giving their children bleach just because they have autism near breaks my heart.

And believe me if you have a kid with cancer it's amazing what shit you read.

Aloedofcrap · 14/03/2016 23:41

Having just properly read your last paragraph Leanne are you Katie Hopkins or Nadibe Dorries MP ?? 😁😁

prettyusefulsometimes · 14/03/2016 23:41

Bananasmel Excellent! I still have a quiet chuckle about the pyramid trip!

Could we have TV sun visors perhaps? Very good at throwing shade.

This is a really good resource for information on cyber bullying:
www.bullying.co.uk/cyberbullying/what-is-cyberbullying/

Toobusytowee · 14/03/2016 23:49

Remember when we were horrified at bots giving out normal sized containers of products to borrow in a PUPP box? It just got worse...

MLM Bot Watch 14- Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes, Bot
LeanneBattersby · 14/03/2016 23:56

Aloedofcrap Grin

I am neither the latter, nor the former. thank fuck

(Sorry to disappoint. I'm not famous, you don't know me unless you live in a specific area or work in a very small, field)

Bananasmel · 14/03/2016 23:56

TooBusy , no....you will need to buy more anyway....to get your 4cc's

Otherwise your upline will disown you, they have already noted it in their planner.

Patzy85 · 14/03/2016 23:57

multiplestreams.org/mlm/

Interesting list of top MLMs in 2016.

Forever Living doesn't even make the top 10!

Younique and Scentsy are apparently doing better.

Patzy85 · 15/03/2016 00:00

Toobusy- I still can't get over the PUPP boxes. Who wants a basket of someone else's toiletries!

Also, they cost a lot to maintain and no one ever seems to want to borrow them. Why not just sample packs. It makes much more sense.

(Oh wait, it's to get the distributors to spend money, isn't it. Obviously!)

Aloedofcrap · 15/03/2016 00:07

Just checking, Leanne you are far to polite and concise to to be either Grin

Toobusytowee · 15/03/2016 00:10

I'm turning into a bot. I just posted a meme. I'm 'working' all hours, I am having trouble keeping up with my inbox ( genuinely though, not pretending) and I have got a lot of plates spinning. I think I need a pro planner.

diamondgirlie · 15/03/2016 00:42

I have known fl to use conference rooms locally at hotels and they ask everyone in their downline attending to spread the cost amongst themselves, and it's all put down to expenses according to them - so are all the business meetings in hotels, wine bars, restaurants, pubs - business meetings abroad - including flights, hotels, meals and drinks ... or so they tell all their hungry new recruits !!! I know this because I was nearly a new recruit victim ............. Fay81 ..... fl distributors are bullies themselves - I have had them bully me and my friends some of whom joined because when honestly saying "sorry, I can't afford it" has now been shut down with fl bullies distributors backing them into a corner with "that's not a problem, I'll buy your 'Business in a Box' for you, just give me the money when you've got it... or £25 a week til it's paid off" !!! I know many many people that this type of persuasion has worked with - and they were not happy about it - but felt their so-called "smile, while I rip you off" friend - yes friend could do that to them !! knowing that they REALLY couldn't afford it !!!

lastuseraccount123 · 15/03/2016 02:55

stories like that diamond is why we need to keep going with our campaign.

inspite of the haterz ;)

Bovnydazzlers · 15/03/2016 04:15

I am so for these threads, why they were needed, and the whole cause.

I don't know fay81 and maybe I'm being naive but I don't think she's connected to MLMs and think she's been given a pretty tough time for expressing her view.

That said, I personally don't think the mentions of individual bots is any way harassment, the only example being about 5? Threads back when a few posters did make a few personal remarks in succession, this was pointed out and personal remarks then ceased.
I can see why any of the bots who find their Facebook posts posted and dissected on here may feel discerted by this, no one likes to feel they are being watched by people who are not in support of them.

However, that doesn't make it harassment, in the same way comments on any 'public figure' in the media are allowed, even though it will be an equally disconcerting experience for those public figures.

Without reposting the bots postings, we wouldn't have uncovered half the things we have or come to the truth about the truly murky seedy world of MLM. Also the word bots is fine imo, it's not the MLM personalities but their fake identical persona's that make them worthy of 'robot' anologies.

I am rambling (sleep deprived with baby, sorry) but saying that what has happened has not been harassment, I think fay has been jumped on pretty harshly for expressing her opinion and for the assumption being she must be a bot. I think we do need to encourage debate and new posters to join. I can also see her point of view (there have obviously been a few bots who have received loads of attention on this thread). Agree that be great to have more to discuss on the chairman etc and people at the top, although they unfortunately let the bots do all the dirty work and post nothing of value themselves so difficult to get much on them.

Also think people have already taken on board the need to not make personal remarks on this thread, we do need to be careful with what is being said in what tone as need to come across whiter than white, God knows the MLMers will jump on it (as happened this week) if not, drawing attention away from the real issues.