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Note for newbies: "Downline" means people who are the lowest level of the pyramid/MLM scambralamabra.

I guess that some people just 'level out' don't they?

I don't move anyone! I just keep supporting people in the team if their sponsor stops.

Cubic was that for me or Natasha?

No, I don't have that function in my back office at all. I know itworks, and Le-vel do though.

1st picture- a holiday paid for by upline for hitting an incentive! We went in January 2015!

2nd picture- the holiday I paid for when my team hit an incentive I chose to put on.... That was a confirmation email and the balance u can see due by Feb! 6 weeks before my team went in April 2015!

2 different holidays! So no..... Not a lie! And was absolutely stated on my Facebook!

Ponyo couldn't agree more. Being targeted as a recruit because I've announced my pregnancy pisses me off massively. That's how it makes me feel, targeted! I'm your friend/family member or nothing. I'm not a recruit, customer etc and will take offence to anyone who thinks the contents of my womb is an opportunity for them to make some money.

Seems like the main gripe is that you are tired of seeing people you know posting on FB - if this is the case - unfollow or hide the posts - if they were close friends then you would be a true friend and support them - as you would expect them to do for you if roles were reversed? Spam is not welcome for anyone - do you class spamming if the poster is putting info on their wall? - If posting on yours then you have a case - but if you are meaning secretively following and stalking them - then you have no case to answer.

If I recruit someone and say they decide to walk away, I can inherit their "line" but I can't move them under different people. I continue to work with those lines whether their sponsor stays put doing nothing or resigns.

Keepthe - how many times were you targetted?

I know many feel this way and to be fair before I joined so would I!!! I think sometimes people just genuinely believe they can help you in some way and inexperience just means they spam and annoy. For the majority it's not how we coach at all.... Totally understand why u would be getting annoyed!

Anyone able to answer my point about the big sellers on commercial websites?

Chimp - we have many, many gripes about mlms, I'm pretty sure seeing a few annoying fb posts is way down the list.

I think we'd really like an answer from Natasha to Eyes opening question about overall churn, and some evidence to contest the fact that over 90% of people that join mlms fail.

I can't wait til Castle Bot turns up. Once she gets rid of the kids of course

Cozietoes - there are no "big" sellers on Ebay or Amazon - certainly not in my team - you can retail but there are no short cuts - or long term benefits doing this - eventually you get caught or found out - the money dries up. Those that do - do so on their own as there is no support or customer service selling this way. I have bought from both sites before and have rued the fact that when the product I bought was faulty from the start - getting a replacement or my money back was sometimes an issue. you will always find mavericks in any walk of life - MLM is no different

Kanga59 - what are you trying to say?

By the way, I'm being circumspect here too; as I'm sure eyes will confirm when one looks at overall number of people that have joined and failed, it's closer to 100%

Hi, fair play to you for coming on here just wanted to ask 1) did you report the unethical 2nd downline to Forever, as her behaviour such as lying about her income was clearly against their terms and conditions 2) do you feel that attendance at success days is essential and would you encourage a new downline recruit to attend even though they joined with very little money and those days seem to cost over £100 when all is taken into account. In Ireland you could spend about £50 on a success day but it appears to be a lot more in England. So would you strongly encourage them to attend from the start or would you want them to wait a couple of months until they had earned some money? I speak from personal experience here as there is a complete pressure mentality in Forever here, to "do what you have to do" to be at success days.

This is how I am referring to spam- I have people on social media I class as friends, mildly interested in their funny/personal/every day posts then this changes overnight to business opportunity this, special offer aloe Vera that, adding me to a million online selling parties (I have a different definition for party but that's another story). And then the inboxed messages, the lets meet up for a coffee to discuss the opportunity. No difference from cold calling. If I'm interested in something I will research it and buy it myself I don't want to be harassed under the pretence of friendship. I won't stand for being singled out and sent a load of bull shit. That's spamming and I delete these people. Not sure about the stalking business, as these are people I try to actively avoid lol I definitely don't want to seek them out. I see a lot of nonsense posted on selling groups I'm part of and that doesn't bother me so much as it's a forum for sales so to be expected. I just laugh, roll my eyes and scroll past.

I think you may have just outed yourself there workingwithchimps

Shadow - eyes statement is not based on fact - he knows this as he does not have the overall figures for every MLM company out there - he has based it on one or two that were researched. Coupled with a deep seated hatred or maybe desire to expose 90% is a high figure - but base this on what? - For every person that drops out or does not make it - there are more starting each day - no different when you say - for every people that leaves this mortal earth - 2 children are born - there is churn in many things