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MLM BOT WATCH 7 - lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about Younique, Forever Living, Ariix, It Works, NuSkin, Stella and dot and [insert name of new MLM from Utah here]

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DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 12:33

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Kathysclown · 15/02/2016 12:41

Well, I was giving you my honest first hand experience of being in the vicinity of a 'new' MLM (Jamberry) - no pressure to sign up, no crank claims, no distributors who appear to have become 'possessed'.... (And I actually liked the products!).

I have watched that video - I have no idea whether what those consultants were saying about their remuneration is true or not.

My friend certainly didn't do it as a main job, just a hobby and for fun, I don't know whether she ever made
A profit or not.

throwingpebbles · 15/02/2016 12:43

Who is AL??

DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 13:00

messaged you throwing

Eyespying · 15/02/2016 13:03

Kathysclown. The word, 'possessed,' has not been used on these threads.

'Possessed', is a word which has been used to pour scorn on the disturbing reality that a vast number of previously free-thinking individuals have all undergone essentially the same sudden radical personality transformation, as a result of entering 'MLM' cults.

I think you realise that there is no such thing as a 'new MLM.' They have all been variations of the original 'Amway/Nutrilite' racket, but with new names.

More than 60 years of quantifiable evidence, proves beyond all reasonable doubt that anyone reciting the 'MLM' fairy story and claiming, or implying, that it is possible to generate an overall net-income lawfully from a so-called 'MLM income opportunity' by regulary retailing 'MLM' products and/or services (over which 'MLM' participants have had absolutely no say in the content, price or quality), has not been not telling the truth.

DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 13:03

Everything has gone from her page. All reference to the business. Pooooof gone.

ambler21 · 15/02/2016 13:06

Fear not DayToDayShit she is back to being a 'public figure'.
#brilliancementor #topglobalbusinessleader #socialmediatrainer #motivationalspeaker #entrepreneur

DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 13:11

is she? does she have 2 fb pages then? Still taking time out on the one i am looking at.

DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 13:12

you are dead right. 2 pages. the one i have been looking at all along has now changed to taking time out with everything disappeared, but found the other.

sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:30

As a business woman and business owner all of this bossbabe/damsels in success shite makes me wanna puke because it's so patronising and cheesy - and I work in a proper little girls fantasy job (i.e. Fashion designer).
It just makes me imagine that they meet up to braid each others hair. What happened to the sisterhood?

Kathysclown · 15/02/2016 13:30

So my view and experience has no value, Eyespying? I must have got it all wrong, must I? My friend must have undergone a 'radical personality transformation' without me noticing, right? And the fact that she never claimed to be earning absolutely loads of money from it, I should just ignore, right?

I said 'new' MLM as it is new to the UK.

Honestly, I am a cynic of The more well known MLMs like JP/FL etc, I even got conned into an initial meeting with an Amway person over 20 years ago and soon realized what it was all about and made them leave my apartment (they were reluctant!). I am not involved in Jamberry or any other MLM myself (other than holding one online party for Jamberry a year ago). But I just wanted to paint a picture that was not all doom and gloom and inevitable entrapment on behalf of the consultants/distributors - some people (selling Jamberry at least) did NOT seem to get sucked into a never ending cycle of lies and debt that we can see happens with some others.

sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:31

NC homeless? Failed credit check for rental? I wonder. Hope she didn't ditch the council house. That would be another mlm tragedy for the list.

Toobusytowee · 15/02/2016 13:33

Which AL are you talking about Day? I'd like to watch this unfold.

DayToDayShit · 15/02/2016 13:36

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sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:39

kathysclown my SIL did an mlm (PamperedChef) and didnt become a bot, but the concept ran out of steam in thr UK as no one is ever gonna want to go to one party with such expensive stuff, more than once. They don't trade in the UK now. She never became 'bot-esque'. I think whilst the stats for losing money in an mlm are always the same, some seem to me to be far more sinister than others. Jamberry I think Id file under rubbish but not that sinister, but lets see eh. Its Ariix that gives me the fear, it's attracting the nutjob bots with 1000 yard stares and gritted teeth. Plus the 'it's really a church', ones.

throwingpebbles · 15/02/2016 13:41

Who is NC???

sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:41

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sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:42

Sorry throwing pebbles, I got confused about the post, it sounds as if Coops is getting evicted from the castle not the bot getting evicted from the barn.

darceybussell · 15/02/2016 13:48

Oh I just assumed 'looking homeless' meant she looked scruffy?

sminkypink · 15/02/2016 13:49

Ha maybe!

Toobusytowee · 15/02/2016 13:53

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Eyespying · 15/02/2016 13:56

Kathysclown - Contray to what you imply, I have always emphasised that there is an enormous difference between short term 'MLM' cult adherents and chronic, severe and inflexible, 'MLM' core-adherents. You appear to have only encountered the former variety, but you also seem to be justifying your own, and your friend's, involvement.

By your own admission, your reasoning is the same as saying that it's OK to accept what is obviously a counterfeit bank-note, because you have looked at a small part of it, and you couldn't find anything wrong.

On the strength of the wider-evidence I've seen, 'Jamberry' is, without a shadow of a doubt, the corporate-front for a blame-the-victim 'MLM income opportunity' cultic racket, preying on vulnerable women. That said, most people who join 'Jamberry' will quickly drop out. A significant minority will cut themselves off from all voices of dissent and continue to the point of exhaustion and destitution.

cozietoesie · 15/02/2016 14:06

Eye

I think that this is what a PP may have meant by balance because Kathysclown and sminky pink have arguable points in my view. I'm sure that no-one on these threads, despite any personal bad experiences, would wish to give the impression that everyone believes there to be a monolith of MLMs heading towards us and all emanating from a Pit Of Evil - yet there is now, I suspect, a very real risk of that impression being given.

Keep things cool would be my recommendation.

Eyespying · 15/02/2016 14:11

This linked document could have come from just about any 'MLM' racket. It contains classic mystifying mathematics and jargon, designed to shut-down the critical, and evaluative, faculties of noy only potential 'Jamberry' Bots, but also all casual observers.

It plain language, it's dangerous bullshit.

www.jamberry.com/uploads/cms/docs/CompPlan-US-100714.pdf

Kathysclown · 15/02/2016 14:12

i wish I had never delerled and offered any thoughts from my own experience. It was pointless.