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How much does his ex really get?

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WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 11:11

How much money does a single parent get in benefits? I ask because my partner is paying his ex over the odds in maintenance because he thinks she is getting next to nothing. However, a friend of mine says his ex gets more money than him due to the amount of benefit she receives.

Can anyone tell me how much (roughly) per month it's possible to get as a single SAHM with one child? Bearing in mind that she is living in their old house with a mortgage on it?

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AnAirOfHope · 09/01/2013 16:21

I live outside of london and childcare for one child is 17k per year. How much do you earn if you cant even pay off 15k of debt?

DontmindifIdo · 09/01/2013 16:24

OP - here goes, I know a few second wives, one at least was the OW, and while not ideal, life is complicated and people don't always think about the best way to do things when emotions are involved.

However, every second wife who's relationship has worked long term has had to make certain decisions, one being that a) the step children need to come first and b) they don't get to have anywhere near as good a lifestyle as if they'd been the first wife. So while his first wife could afford to be a SAHM, if a third of his salary is only £500, then he can't afford to support a second family, you will have to give up that idea. If he could afford to provide a certain size of house and a certain standard of living for his first wife (indeed, you in your marriage could expect certain levels), if you are to be the second wife, you have to accept a significantly lower standard of living. Getting into debt in order to try to have the lifestyle you think you should have isn't a long term plan, you have to find a man without baggage, or accept this man will never give you that lifestyle. The only 2nd wife I know who isn't having to pay the bulk of the bills and their lifestyle is one who married a bloke on over £1m a year, every other 2nd DW has had to accept if they want a nice house and good standard of living, they will have to pay for it themselves.

Certainly if he's only taking home such a small sum each month and has a family to support already, you really need to accept funding for any DCs you have will have to be down to you, and practically you can't afford to take a year off after having a DC if you are doing it with a DP who's got other family commitments, you've got debts and neither of you are earning high wages. With your DP's wage levels it would be a struggle even if he was single with no other commitments.

You might have to give up some things you want from life, but that's the cost of being with this man. You've picked a man who already has commitments that are bigger than his relationship with you, only you know if it's worth it, but you can't sidestep those or the knock on effects to your relationship (ie. you can't expect him to fund anything other than the basics, you probably can't have DCS for a couple of years without it being a massive struggle, his free time will never be entirely reseved for you and your DCs, you will forever be 'the other woman' amongst his family and friends - many of whom will take against you on principle etc)

KatieScarlett2833 · 09/01/2013 16:27

I could tell you, but I won't. MYOB

WhistlingNun · 09/01/2013 16:28

Wasp - you fail to be grasping that his ex's income has NOTHING to do with the amount of maintenance he legally has to pay.

This is regarding your recent post about when she starts working, or if her boyfriend moves in.

CSA is based solely on your partner's income. If he feels he has the conscience to do so, he can strip it down to the bare minimum of 15%. But i feel this is unfair if he can manage more, just to provide a cushty life for you and a future child.

If you want to buy her clothes etc, fine - do so. But never go below the minimum of 15% in cash. For example, you can't hand over £20 one month and hundreds of pounds worth of clothes. Doesn't work like that.

And i agree that all your 'concern' earlier has turned out to be bitterness. What you're saying to Boo about her leaving her partner is downright nasty.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 09/01/2013 16:29

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WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 16:34

Dontmind - I don't want to be a SAHM

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AmberLeaf · 09/01/2013 16:34

I know the chippy 'LOL' response are just a front OP but you are looking really silly now-just saying.

I was right though wasn't I? you are one of those ones aren't you!

AnAirOfHope · 09/01/2013 16:35

What no more laughing OP? Grin

WhistlingNun · 09/01/2013 16:37

Dontmind - I don't want to be a SAHM

Really hope you've looked into the cost of childcare then.

WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 16:39

If you want to comment on my thread on anything other than the original question, or make ridiculous statements about me as a person, at least read it. Otherwise your wasting your own time.

At least Boo, however nasty she has been to me, has been here from the start.

Thanks.

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AnAirOfHope · 09/01/2013 16:39

You have the sloops the left over bits that is not good enough for his wife.

She has the child the house is a SAHM and a new boyfriend with money and your bf to pay 50% for the child.

What a great life his ex has.

cloudpuff · 09/01/2013 16:40

It doesnt matter if Mum marries a millionaire and also gets wage with a mega high salary your dp will still have to pay at least the minimum the csa requires.

BalmainMummy · 09/01/2013 16:40

If my husband had a child to support then I would encourage him fully in this and help his ex make his childs life comfortable. But its not being nosy wanting to know roughly how much he should contribute to make this possible. Its tough times for everyone to make ends meet.

AnAirOfHope · 09/01/2013 16:42

She will get a job and move in with her boyfriend and your partner will still have to pay mainance and look after his child.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 09/01/2013 16:42

Wasp - you have done something nasty though, and Boo has - fairly recently - been on the receiving end of the same.

If you have children, you will suddenly realise just how deep a mother's love and protective instinct towards her children runs. Especially when they are threatened by people who seem to find amusement in being party to a child's life being turned upside down.

I think she can be forgiven for lashing out, particularly in view of the callous and cold nature of your posts. You haven't shown the slightest bit of remorse, of empathy, of kindness or guilt or anything on this thread - or any of your others.
You are clearly out for number one, and fuck anyone who is in your way.

WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 16:43

Whistling - once I pay off debts and sell my house, it should be ok. Timing is a big issue tbh because I could get a much better maternity pay deal depending on when I pop. It's only a few months that we might struggle but moving + selling house + back to work = minted Grin Grin

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Snorbs · 09/01/2013 16:45

Oh right, you're the poster who wanted to take £5K/£10K from your not-yet-ex husband without telling him about the affair you'd had that ended your marriage.

Have you told your husband about you shagging around behind his back yet, or are you waiting for the cheque to clear before letting that bit of information slip out?

WhistlingNun · 09/01/2013 16:45

It's only a few months that we might struggle but moving + selling house + back to work = minted

So what's the point of this thread? If you'll be 'minted' why will maintenance need to decrease?

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 09/01/2013 16:48

Well if you are going to be minted then your BF can keep paying £500 to his daughter, can't he?

Which I am sure you, as a loving and caring stepmother will be delighted about.

:)

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DontmindifIdo · 09/01/2013 16:48

OK, great you don't want to be a stay at home mum, but let me repeat - I live in the south east but outside the M25 - a full time nursery place is over £1k a month. This assumes I can drop off after 8am and pick up before 6pm, if you need to leave for work earlier/return later, it's more expensive again. If your DP brings home approx £1.5k a month, once you take out nursery costs for just one DC and any travel costs he has, even if you are able to reduce his payments to his exW to 15%, you are still going to have to cover all bills and household costs for all of you.

If he leaves you, you would expect 15% of his wage (he's not going to be able to be more generous with 2 exs) - take your wage, remove £1k a month, add £250 from him, then look again, could you live off that and repay your debts? You need to be really sure he's going to stick around and have some savings behind you and debts cleared before starting a family...

WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 16:50

I don't mind paying the money, again if you read my posts you would know that. We will be in a much better position soon but there be a short-term struggle which is why I asked the question.

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MissPricklePants · 09/01/2013 16:51

OP, you slept with a man who you knew was married and a father, and yet only 6 months in you think this man should be paying less for his child?!absolutely disgusting! you sound very cold and callous, his daughter and ex have to get used to the fact that he has left them both for you. I wouldn't want you anywhere near my child. Fwiw I think both you and your 'D'P will struggle with a relationship together as you were both unfaithful...that leaves room for a lot of insecurities to develop. What he pays towards his daughters upkeep is not your business! Oh and if you will be minted then his maintenance can remain the same?

WaspFactory · 09/01/2013 16:52

Dontmind - we both earn £30k+ each. HTH.

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