Bleeding, early scan and small for dates?

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Had posted this in Pregnancy as I hadn't realised this section was here, so trying again here.

I am 6 weeks pregnant and have been bleeding lightly since Sunday, had an early scan today and measured 4-5 weeks. I am very regular 27/28 day cycle so this would be off for my dates and they said they could see only a pregnancy sac (4mm) and (no yolk?)

They think I am either having an ectopic pregnancy, ,miscarriage or am just earlier than expected. I have had blood taken today and again friday to check to see if hormone levels are rising

I feel that I am having a miscarriage as I have had no clear symptoms and the ones I thought I may be having had stopped.

I really am asking has this happened to anyone and is it most likely (as I feel) to be a negative outcome? I am also off loading a bit really as my head is spinning with it all. sad

Thanks.

So my hCG levels have dropped which is good news but no chance of ERPC today. I'm on the emergency list for tomorrow, so keeping my fingers crossed there isn't a major traffic accident.

Already fed up of waiting and know it's only the beginning.

Thanks PFJ, Ali and QA for your support. I guess we can only breathe, reboot and try again. xxx

Exactly. Good luck sweetie. xxx

RedheadedGal, the waiting must be very difficult for you, it really is one of the hardest things to deal with I think, especially for you when you have a kind of deadline at the back of your mind with your honeymoon in 2 weeks..

Have you recently got married then?

Just got the call from the doctor to say that my HCG has dropped again still around the 100 mark, so I am hopeful that this time next week my body may be back to normal. Have to do a pregnancy test again next week and see if it is finally negative. How strange to think that I am hoping for a negative and yet if we decide to ttc again I will be desperately hoping for a positive

I am taking your advice of retail therapy this afternoon pfj and going to go shopping this afternoon. Will try and pop over to the other thread this evening. Will feel like the new girl

We actually got married last september, but had neither the time nor money then to go away. We decided we'd do it at Easter, before the baby arrived (if only!). We're still looking forward to getting away - it may be just what we need to recover.

QA - how did you get your doctor to do the HCG tests? The registrar at the hospital told me they wouldn't do any follow up tests to see if it came down. She also said my GP wouldn't either because they would have to pay for it. I'm aware that it might take forever to drop - still at 7,700. I'm going to have to learn to be very patient, but it's so hard when you just want to get back on track and ttc again.

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Pfj, I laughed out loud to that earlier, some of the comments are hilarious. I was smiling along until I read Bof's comment about the Sean Connery accent 'sat' Vs 'Shat' and then just couldn't stop laughing, OMG too funny. I also spent half an hour last night looking at youtube clips on the 'post your funniest clip' thread.

Redheadedgal, That is a really good drop in 48 hours. Well I say good drop, but you know what I mean. It is amazing how everything flips once you have had a MC. It is so frustrating waiting for the hormone levels to drop.

I haven't had to push for any of the tests except one, when a nurse thought that a weak pregnancy test was adequate to suggest a drop in hormones, when in fact I had had faint test throughout and in fact they hadn't dropped. For most of the tests they have just asked me to come in for them and have seemed extra cautious, but i think that was because they stayed the same for quite a while, which can indicate an ectopic pregnancy. For last weeks tests they said to do a pregnaacy test and if still positive come back for another, which I did. I have to do that again next week.

Wait and see what happens with the Erpc, as I think that they should drop quite quickly after that and they will probably ask you to do a pregnancy test or another blood test a week or so after you have had that done. More waiting for you I'm afraid.

Congratulations on your wedding It is good to have the honeymoon to look forward to and the break will do you both good.

QuestionsAnswered - I can't find the funny clip thread, if you still know where it is can you direct me? I could use a laugh. As long as I don't burst my stitches!!

Feeling good today, life seems brighter, especially since cbeebies is running their springtime song now (DS loves cbeebies) and I love the spring. Sad I know, but I do.

Redheadgal - that happenend to me. I also felt awful that I had all the symptons of being pregnant but wasn't and hadn't been for so long (in fact from the date of implantation!). I started bleeding 5 days later and after a few days it was all over.

Fortunately for me I was pregnant again before the due date of that failed pregnancy.

No one ever took any blood tests with me, though.

Chitchat, I am glad that you got pregnant again, especially before the due date of your failed pregnancy. The due date must be a difficult time, specially if someone has been trying since their last MC without any luck.

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Thanks ChitChat. It's so great to know that other people have got through this and doing well. I'm sure we will. Had an erpc yesterday and feel much better for having done so. I couldn't have waited for nature to take it's course. Now it's Day One of recovery and waiting. We're keeping our fingers crossed we'll conceive again before the due date, but who knows...

PFG - that thread was hilarious! Thank you.

Thanks Questions, hugs for you xxxx

Redheadgal - hope you are doing ok today sweetheart. xxx

Redheadedgal, glad that the waiting is over. Sorry that you have had to have the ERPC. You sound very strong and I hope you conceive again as soon as you're ready. Get plenty of rest and let your DH look after you. I hope you enjoy your honeymoon and that this experience doesn't take too much away from it.

Lots of luck to you x

Recovering nicely thanks. Had a bit of a sticky moment last night when I had to tell my stepdaughter, but we're all together this weekend and that's helping. Lots of wine, stilton and dark chocolate mouse is also doing me the power of good. Thanks for all your help this week. It's been so tough and it's great to have such support! Hugs to all. xxx

Hi Redheadgal, so very sorry to hear your news but glad that that they did the ERPC quickly as the waiting is awful!

Q&A / PFJ - how are things with you?

I got back from holiday on Saturday - had a relaxing break. Didn't get much snowboarding in (3 x half days) as I was still bleeding quite heavily and exhausted all the time. DH was brilliant - gave me the right balance of space, attention and iron tablets plus chocolate and coke when I seemed to be flagging on the mountain. Our friends were great too as I'm sure having a subdued and grieving couple on holiday isn't ideal - but they were great.

It was quite hard being around my friend's 8 week old baby; but the best medicine was their 3.5 year old son I spent a lot of time with him mucking about. He is very, very funny and a happy child so it was a easy to distract myself with him.

Went to the EPAU for my final BHCG test (to confirm its not ectopic) when we got back which really threw me. I didn't think it would effect me as much as it did

I know I sound very whiny / down at the moment but I'm not - just tired; it's not even 3pm and work has exhausted me, I can barely focus or concentrate. Had a lovely holiday and physically I'm much, much better. I guess I'm just feeling like it all happened so quickly - one minute I'm pregnant and we're planning for our new family; and the next minute it's all gone. I feel a little lost.

And a little sad that ttc and being pregnant will never be as happy and carefree as it was two weeks ago.

Well, that's enough gloom from me - sorry for bringing the thread down, just needed to get it off my chest. Best I get back to work... well at least back to pretending I'm alert enough to do some work

Z xx

RedgeadedGal, glad you are indulging yourself, I have been too, bit of comfort food and lots of wine is good for the soul.

Zyggy, sounds like the holiday has done you good, but you may find it hits you harder now you are home. I can see why being around your friend's DS would help, at that age they really do help to take your mind off things, I jnow my DS does. I know what you mean about the tiredness, I am only just starting to feel a little more energetic, I was exhausted all the time, so hopefully you will pick up soon too. Don't forget it is all still so recent and your body needs time to recover.

I was also thinking the same thing about how being pregnant will be so much more of a worry after a MC and I am still mulling it all over.

Please don't worry about posting here about how you really feel, Real life moves on so quickly and I am, finding that posting on MN really helps me, as I think about what has happened and will happen such a lot of the time. I am going to keep checking in on here, it has been good to have a little gang of us who are at the same stage.

pfj if you're lurking and feel up to it, let me know how you are getting on. Been thinking of you too. Emmsy's is fab, but takes a little more time to update!
Perhaps you could start a TTC after a recent MC thread, once you are ready to start and I can come on and you can persuade me to join you! x

Zyggy your comment that 'ttc and being pregnant will never be as happy and carefree as it was two weeks ago' really hit home. I agree with you completely. We'd been fortunate to conceive within days of having my coil removed and it all seemed so effortless and uncomplicated. Now not only am I mourning the loss of the baby I thought I was going to have, but I'm realising that ttc and being pregnant will never be so joyful. That in itself is making me very sad.

Am trying very hard to get back into my work. Thankfully I work from home and it's very flexible. Unfortunately I have to write a paper about women experiencing problems during pregnancy. Unsurprisingly I'm finding motivation an issue.

RHG xx

It does get better, Redheadgal. What helped me best was being with a friend who let me mad as hell. Yes I was upset and hurting emotionally, but I was also mad as hell that this was happening/had happened to me - waiting wasn't my choice and I was booked in but due to the hospital not explaining things properly I was forced to wait an extra week and it happened naturally during the waiting period.

Anger is a natural part to grieving and too many people will try to stop you short/circuit the process because it is uncomfortable for them. Be sad - cry, be mad - throw things/scream, do whatever it is you need to do. If you can find a sympathetic friend who will listen to you ranting and raving when you need to or help you drown your sorrows then even better.

redheaedGal Writing that paper at the moment can't be easy for you

The fact that ttc and pregnancy will not be the uncomplicated thing it was before the MC is what is putting me off ttc again at the moment (not that I can yet as I still haven't had a negative pregnancy test!) But it's the knowledge that those first few months of a subsequent pregnancy in particular are going to be such a worry that makes me so unsure about doing it again, that and the fact that I don't think I could go through this again.

chitchat glad you had a such a good friend, it really can help, just having someone who understands.