Empty pregnancy sac

[Samk79]

I had a scan on Thursday when I thought I was 11 weeks. They could see an empty sac which measured 5 weeks. I know my dates are not that far out.
They took bloods and informed me my hormone levels are high suggesting that my dates are right and my body isn't getting rid of the pregnancy
I have to go back on Thursday for another scan. I am bleeding and have cramps. Has Anyone had a similar experience and did you miscarry naturally?
I just feel in limbo right now 😞

Jesus all those typos 🙈 I'll blame it on the fact my eyes are falling out of my head from being up at 5am. I meant to say I'm getting pains down below and where my uterus is.

Yeah I was shocked about the injections. My mum had a hip operation recently and I had to go around to hers every evening to give her them if my dad wasn't home from work in time. I'm fine about giving them to others but I don't think I'll be able to do it to myself 🙈 that's where dh will have to step up lol.

Oh that's sad 😔 life is so cruel sometimes.

And yeah I'm guessing the pains are normal. They remind me of the awful period pains I used to get when I was a teenager. Thank god it stopped after I had kids, I couldn't cope with this every month 😬

@chocolatelog
Tell your dh he needs to man up lol.
I have had the coil in for years so it's taken me a while to get used to having periods again since we started ttc. The pains o have now are like severe period pains.
Do you have to go back for any follow up?

Yes he definitely needs to man up 😂

They just said I need to do a pregnancy test in 3 weeks just to confirm I'm not still "pregnant"

No mention of a follow up.

@chocolatelog I just wasn't sure if they arranged a follow up or not. The whole process does seem to be very drawn out!

Morning everyone
I'm sure about my dates as well @Sam, but obviously I understand that people get them wrong sometimes and they don't want to scare people unnecessarily/rush them into medical or surgical management. But I knew when I saw the empty sac on the screen that there was no way this was going to end well.

I would just expect that as the experts they could say something to me like "Yes, with a gestational sac of this size and no yolk sac or embryo we can say with ___% certainty that it's a miscarriage and if your dates are in fact right then it's closer to 100%." Instead everyone just keeps saying "We can't say anything for certain right now."

I just feel like I am going a bit crazy at the moment, I know my dates are right, they are tracked on my phone and my cycle is incredibly regular. I got a strong positive test 4 weeks before my scan so there is just no way I should have a gestational sac with nothing inside at this point. I want someone to say this to me straight but instead everyone is dancing around the reality. I was coping fairly well but feel overwhelmed with frustration today. If I have to wait until Saturday I don't know how I am going to cope.

@chocolatelog Sorry you're in pain today. Is it possible you are rhesus negative? That's the only situation in which I have heard about having to take an injection after the operation. (Maybe you already know this...)
www.kidspot.com.au/birth/pregnancy/foetal-health/rhesus-negative-blood-group-antid-injection/news-story/0334420ec27491a18e309f4d616563a3

Sorry to hear you're in pain @chocolatelog hope you're managing to rest and take things easy. I didn't realise that you had to do injections after the operation, nothing about this is easy is it? Is it to do with your blood type? Im rhesus negative and have been concerned that they haven't discussed an injection after my bleed.

I'm sorry you're still in limbo @coconutlatte44 like you say, you know yourself your dates. The nurse on Friday said I don't want to give you false hope but we need you to come back to check. I actually talked to dh about it last night and he said he doesn't have hope that this will have a good outcome. It's what I needed to hear because I have started to have thoughts creep in that it might be OK. Ugh.

@Samk79 I'm sorry to hear about the date for your follow up. This is very cruel and sad for us all. The bit I'm struggling with is why doesn't my body recognise that the pregnancy isn't progressing? 😥 I'm glad you've been signed off.

Luckily dh and I had leave planned for this week so I'm not on my own.

Thanks @VenusStarr.

Well the good news is that they have booked me in for both the follow up scan and the surgery for tomorrow, so if all goes well by tomorrow night I will have some sense of closure.

(Also the fact that they're willing to book me in suggests that they are pretty confident that I am miscarrying, even though they aren't able to say it directly! I don't know why this lack of confirmation is driving me crazy right now - maybe it is a real tangible "thing" to focus on rather than being upset about the rest of the situation) 🤯🤯🤯

@coconutlatte44 that's good that they have given you a date for tomorrow

@VenusStarr when do you have to go back?

Chocolate, everyone is different, some describe the pain as “period pain” for me though, I had to go into hospital for gas and air and morphine just until the sac passed. Usually took between 4-24 hours of intense and unbearable pain. As soon as the sac passed, the pain stopped straight away.
The pain was never “period cramps” for me.
Codiene based pain killers took the edge off if you have anything like that?

I'm glad you're going to be seen quickly @coconutlatte44

@Samk79, I'm not back until a week on Friday. How you feeling today?

I had a letter about a gynecology appt for early April. I only asked the GP yesterday so pleased they have sent it so quickly. Can't remember if I mentioned it but the scan showed up multiple fibroids and the sonographer spent ages on them. The nurse said they may have contributed but they couldn't say for sure. At least I don't have to wait ages to be seen.

@VenusStarr it must be a pain for you having to wait
I'm bleeding more today and still in pain, also feel exhausted and sad

I'm sorry you're in pain @Samk79, hope you can get comfortable ❤️
It is annoying to wait so long, especially as nothing is happening, feeling quite sick today, wish my body would realise.

Hi SamK79

I was scanned 8th March at 10 weeks and was also told I had an empty sac which was a very upsetting. I was given another scan for 10 days later (so yesterday) to just make sure nothing developed since the last scan, just in case I got my dates wrong. I was very similar to you in that they told me my sac measured just less than 6 weeks, but my husband and I were pretty sure we couldnt have got the dates that wrong.

Cut long story short, I did miscarry last Friday before i ended up having my follow up scan yesterday. The scan helped to confirm i had miscarried fully and nothing is left in there to require medical intervention luckily.

There may still be a chance the dates are wrong for you as i have read about irregular periods causing incorrect dates to be calculated. So it is best to wait for the 2nd scan, however for myself and my husband where it didnt work it, it did help immensely that we were mentally prepared for me miscarrying on Friday. I was more relieved that my body had finally recognised that there was no baby and started to do the right thing.

I think it is worth reading about miscarriages and what you might experience just so you're not shocked, for myself obviously it was horrible but manageable, because i had read a lot of threads about miscarriages I was less scared as I could recognise similar symptoms that other people had described and I could trust what was happening to me was meant to be.

One thing I would warn you on are possible contractions, I thought it would just be a heavy achey period, but i started experiencing contractions which I wasnt warned about by the hospital or nurses.

I've written more about it in a blog post here >>> www.womenontheladder.com/life/2019/3/19/my-miscarriage , as it helped me so much reading other people's experiences i want to help others who may have to go through the same thing and feel prepared. And also writing about it has helped me process what has happened to me.

As well as resting over the weekend, I've taken two days off work so far and am hoping to go back tomorrow, but everyone's body is different and some may take longer to recover than others. I would always trust your own instincts as you know your body better than anyone else.

I hope Ive been able to help and I wish you the best in getting through this tough situation.

@VenusStarr it is cruel that our bodies still think we are pregnant
@BigTeaspoon thank you, I know my dates are not that far out so I'm going expecting everything to be the same when I have my re scan Thursday. I have been bleeding for 6 days now but don't know if I have actually miscarried yet. I guess I would see if I passed the sac?

@Samk79, for me it was pretty obvious when the sac came out, i could feel a bigger blob come out of me for one thing, and its more of a whiter/greyer mass, than a dark red blood clot. sorry if tmi people.

@BigTeaspoon
Thank you for that. I've had bleeding with small clots like a heavy period abs lots of cramping

@Samk79 @VenusStarr and everyone going through similar pain and hurt, I hope that you all get through this soon. Thinking of you all xxx

Thanks for sharing your story and blog post @BigTeaspoon.

I am going to be admitted into the hospital at 11:30 tomorrow morning, having a scan and then provided it confirms everything, I'm booked for the surgical management immediately afterwards.

I am looking forward to moving on from this so just hoping that everything goes smoothly.

Hope those of you waiting and in pain are able to find some relief soon.

To the rhesus negative comment - yes, they should give it to you after the surgery. I didn't have to have it as I have the antibodies in my blood already.

I had to come home from work as the cramping had me literally bent over in two (this was before I had SMM).

It's such a rubbish thing to go through. So unbelievably rubbish.

Think it's over twelve weeks they would give the anti-d as standard to anyone who's rhesus negative and miscarrying.

The injections are to prevent deep vein thrombosis. My blood types a-negative so I've no idea why I was given them I didn't think to ask, I was just glad to get out of there 🙈

Dh was sick trying to do it so thank god mil was here to do it 🙈😍 bloody mans useless lol

My mum lives just around the corner so said she will pop by every evening on her way back from work, there's only 8 left but there so sore 😔

I've woken up with the worst stabbing pains down below, it's like contractions it's awful. Just waiting for the pain killers to kick in so I can go back to sleep. What a crap time.

@coconutlatte44 good luck for today, will be thinking of you
@chocolatelog hope the pains settle down for you x

Thank you @BigTeaspoon, thanks for sharing your blog too. I'm scared I won't handle the pain but it helps to know what to expect and that I probably can get through it. Hope you're OK

Thank you @sophied1983 about the rhesus negative. I'm sorry to hear you're in pain and discomfort, how are you feeling today? Hope you've been able to rest. Are you off today?

I'm sorry you have woken early with pain @chocolatelog, this is just so awful. I'm sorry this happened. Glad your mom is close to help with the injections.

Good luck @coconutlatte44, will be thinking of you xx

How are you feeling today @Samk79?

Had a very vivid dream that I went back to have the scan and they they found a heartbeat measuring 5+5. I felt a rush of hope and they said I needed to go back to check but they were trying to prepare me that it wasn't going to be OK as the dates were wrong but I wouldn't listen. Felt relaxed when I woke up but reality has now set it 😔💔, I just feel stuck.

@VenusStarr I'm really struggling today, it was a week ago today that I started bleeding. I just keep thinking that this time last week I thought everything was okay and I was excited about my baby. Feeling very tearful again today