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Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 15 - tests, treatment and trying again

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Justonemoretime · 01/01/2015 09:02

Information, support, hand holding, tea, sympathy and a hell of a lot of combined knowledge - all welcome as we try to make sense of the RMC roller coaster of tests, NHS admin, heart ache and (hopefully) happy endings!
Please start with a recap of your stats :)

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bootles · 07/01/2015 20:45

sun with this last one the consultant mentioned PGD (pre implantation genetic diagnosis) for the future but its mega pricey ,(I don't know how much exactly, but not an option for us) plus the ivf on top, and ivf has only limited success...EPAU Dr said as I get pg reasonably easily it may not really benefit me (we've a healthy DS) and I may as well just keep trying if I can hack it. As we know, all Docs will have differing opinions I expect.

girliesaints · 07/01/2015 20:47

Bootles- meant to add I had dreadful headaches last time as the bleeding eased off. I posted at the time and few ladies said it was a reflection of your hormones adjusting. They did vanish after a few days x

tannyLoo · 07/01/2015 21:19

Thanks for your thoughts, I am contemplative rather than sad at the moment...

March I have had acupuncture for a year now and recommend it if you can afford it. I also took some supplements and quack meds for my cycle, including b6, maca root, omega complex, hefty multivit and royal jelly. The maca seems to be magical stuff.

Marchgirl · 07/01/2015 21:20

I'm interested in the agnus castus longest. Can you tell me a bit more about it? What is it, where do I buy it and the cost, what dose, what kind of preparation is it, when in your cycle do you take it etc. Sorry for the multiple questions!
I like the idea of acupuncture (not the cost though), but not sure I'm very susceptible to it. Had several sessions after due date for dd to try and bring on labour but it didn't work. Still ended up being induced and being 19 days late

tannyLoo · 07/01/2015 22:25

And Brummie, I drank copious amounts of raspberry leaf tea after some of my MCs. It helps the uterus contract down again and improve uterine health, if you're into that sort of thing...

AndCounting · 07/01/2015 22:36

girlie haha. He's not a devil so I suppose that makes him a saint!? Yours? All the best with the consultant and weigh in.

Brummiegirl15 · 07/01/2015 22:42

Interesting to see some of you mention acupuncture. There is an acupuncturist based in Solihull who specialises in fertility and he's been recommended to me by someone I know who's had 3 x mc's

But at £45 a session am I throwing money away? If I did it, it would be in between finishing bleeding and seeing the consultant.

Tanny do you know what? I 'll consider anything right now!!

Bleeding still fairly heavy, could actually feel it earlier today and had some whopping clots

I definitely feel more tired though since bleeding

You are all amazing on this thread. I'm so grateful for all the support and advice. Thank you xx

longestlurkerever · 07/01/2015 22:46

I don't know masses about it tbh march. It is part of the herb family vitex. It's cheap - about a fiver a bottle- and can be got on Amazon or at health food shops. Opinion seems to differ on its use in pregnancy so some say to take in the first half of your cycle only when ttc but I think I took it until bfp. It's one or two tablets daily.

I don't want to recommend it as such as I don't normally do herbal remedies and don't know masses about them but by all means do a bit of research yourself and see what you think. It's often recommended on the ttc threads but some people warn against taking it.

Purplefrogshoes · 07/01/2015 22:52

brummie hope the bleeding eases off and you feel better Flowers

I can't keep up with the thread on my phone but someone mentioned b vitamins, I took vitamin b complex to try and shorten my cycle or at least regulate it but ended up with 42 day cycles Hmm

I have severe scanxiety tonight, 20 week scan tomorrow. I'm 22 weeks and can feel movement but still anxious

Will catch up when I get on the laptop

tannyLoo · 07/01/2015 23:07

Purple good luck for the scan, movements are a good thing!

tannyLoo · 07/01/2015 23:19

Brummie my acupuncturist does "affordable" sessions, which are overlapped with someone else and cost £25. I have a session fortnightly, but it increases at key times, so when I was TTC and newly pg, and through MC. These sessions aren't for everyone, but I try and book my sessions to be her first of the day, so I get the consultation on my own. I have found it to be a healing process...

Of course you're tired, bleeding is tiring, and you're probably starting to unwind that coiled spring you've been since finding out.

bootles · 07/01/2015 23:55

purple good luck for tomorrow

brummie despite being up at nearly midnight, I totally relate to the exhaustion. I feel constantly exhausted at the moment. I think we need to remember that our bodies are sadly making a lot of adjustments right now. It's the pits. Hope the bleeding eases soon x

girliesaints · 08/01/2015 06:31

Purple- good luck for today x

And counting- normally a saint but since Boxing Day an absolute devil. Hoping just a phase.

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Justonemoretime · 08/01/2015 07:26

Good luck for today Purple, movement is great!
Re acupuncture, I'm still having it just to 'relax, balance and support', she treats me for anxiety stuff etc. I'm lucky and get it for 'free' because I tutor her son in a level philosophy once a week in return, which works for us.
Re stand up, I agreed to do it way back in September and wasn't sure I would still be up for it, but since I'm over the sickness etc, I decided to go for it. It was great, but not a career change Smile I must confess, Tiny, I did talk about breastfeeding / ukip-gate and did nick the comment from you ( on fb I think) about what ostentatious breastfeeding might be like and mimed it with a boobie beanie on one side and a mimed nipple tassel on the other! Got lots of laughs. Blush
To be honest I thought it would be terrifying but the nerves for some of my early scans have been much worse.
Work have stared the process of looking for my maternity cover , which is terrifying. The need to do it now, though because it all takes ages in teaching.
No more flutters since Monday. I know that's normal at 16 weeks, but please reassure me that's normal... Shock

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TinyTear · 08/01/2015 07:54

Yay. If you become mega famous I was commission on my nipple tassel breastfeeding joke Grin

TinyTear · 08/01/2015 07:55

It is normal. With dd I didn't feel anything until 20 weeks. This one flutters only from 18 weeks ish and only more regular at 22...

barkingtreefrog · 08/01/2015 07:57

Just quickly as I'm late for work and I can't remember who was asking, sorry!
Angus Castus - known as 'nature's clomid' - it is supposed to balance your cycle. It was my next step to try while I was still trying to TTC naturally but never moved onto it as I started the real clomid then went straight to iui. I did try the high dose B6 (my luteal phase was always 7/8 days so I was trying to bring it forward) but didn't notice a discernable different.
Acupuncture - I had 6 months previously. It brought AF back post mc, it made my cycles more regular (24-37 days pre acupuncture, 31-33 days post). It also brought ov forward a couple of days. It may have helped get me pg alongside the iui, who knows?
I started again last night (new person, didn't want to go back to the old place, too many memories given I started after one mc and finished at the next). She'll help keep me relaxed through the next iui, support implantation, and hopefully help sustain a pregnancy... fingers crossed....

Although she did ask a ridiculous question when getting my history. Do you think you've finished grieving yet?
Do you ever 'finish' grieving when you've lost babies?! I'm assuming she's never lost one...

girliesaints · 08/01/2015 08:20

Just, absolutely normal ??

TinyTear · 08/01/2015 08:26

ahrgh you don't finish grieving, you move to different stages when it becomes a little less raw.

every christmas I will remember my number 1 as the due date was christmas day... every christmas for the rest of my life I will have that little what if moment that while i do have a nearly 3 year old, i could have a nearly 4...

Belleende · 08/01/2015 09:20

Ladies I am freaking out. Just had a really funny turn on the bus. Got really hot, then my vision went blurry and then my hearing went really faint. Managed to get myself off the bus and on way to docs now. I have been trying to shake a cold for a whlie and it has gone to my chest, thinking I might have a chest infection. Oh god, please let everything be ok.

TinyTear · 08/01/2015 09:27

hope you are ok. good you are getting checked out

girliesaints · 08/01/2015 09:37

Bellende- best to get checked out& hope you're ok. I fainted a lot whilst pregnant with DH, apparently a sign that my greedy baby needed all my energy and I was rushing around too much x

Sunandrainbow · 08/01/2015 09:43

Bellende - don't panic hun. I was told is really common for your blood pressure to be a bit on the low side when pregnant, which can cause you to feel dizzy / faint etc. fingers crossed that docs will say everything is fine x

TinyTear · 08/01/2015 09:49

And Belle, just checked and you are 15/16 weeks, right? maybe you can even hear a hb if the doctor/midwife are willing to try

charlieis30 · 08/01/2015 09:59

bellende try not to worry too much, I'm constantly dizzy in this pregnancy, get head rushes and lose vision almost every time I stand up. I had lowish blood pressure to start off with and with all the added blood you get in pregnancy it's common for it to drop even further. Can you call your midwife?

Re the acupuncture discussion, I had 1-2x sessions per week after MC2. I went to a weird chinese place and had acupuncture followed by massage each session. I tried to approach it as a chance to "get away" from my life for an hour or so, not as a magic bullet which would get me pregnant. She focused a lot on trying to bring my stress level down (when I first went there I was in floods of tears the whole time). I used the time to practice some of the meditation techniques I'd been learning in my counselling sessions. I think I went for a couple of months before I got pregnant again. I'm truly not sure whether it made any difference but it felt like I was doing something nice for myself, taking care of ME which I think is really important in such a difficult time.