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Recurrent Miscarriage Support - tests, treatment, trying again - thread 11

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bakingtins · 02/08/2014 10:39

Welcome everyone - pull up a chair! A thread for anyone who has suffered multiple miscarriages and is in need of information, moral support, tea or sympathy. Newbies very welcome.

Can we start the thread with a recap of where we are all up to again, please?

OP posts:
Daisybell1 · 10/08/2014 20:32

Thank you all. Prof Quenby seems to be the next point of call, doesn't she? I don't know if I'll get a referral though -we've already had an NHS referral to St Marys so may have used our only shot?

Catlover2014 · 10/08/2014 20:58

You can see Prof Q privately if GP won't refer you so don't panic. Hopefully they will refer you though!

Does anyone know how long AF normally takes to come after stopping Crinone gel? X

Justonemoretime · 10/08/2014 20:59

Daisybell, no referral needed, email Kerri, her secretary (on Google, sorry, can't link on my phone). You will need to wait for two AFs, and then you should be able to get an appointment. It costs £360 and is done 7-10 days after ov. xx

Triplespin · 10/08/2014 21:03

Cat - not sure about AF, but I was on it for mc#2. I had slow rising hcg so came off it and 3 days later the spotting/miscarriage started.

Catlover2014 · 10/08/2014 21:27

Thanks triple! Fingers crossed it won't be a long wait in that case. I've found crinone quite heavy going. Did it make anyone else feel depressed / weird? Xx

TinyTear · 11/08/2014 06:42

No idea about crinone but last month AF came 2 days after stopping cyclogest.

Justonemoretime · 11/08/2014 09:57

Morning Ladies,
Hope everyone is coping, feeling reasonably optimistic etc? I know many of you are going through tough times.
Well, my body is behaving oddly, which is perplexing, to say the least. Ov was late (signs of it were, anyway), so dtd a couple of times last week. Then I thought it was peak time (according to the signs), and I was away at the seaside, and then I came home and DH was off to ride the London 100, then he was knackered and I was grumpy, but my temp was still low-ish, so I was making (unwelcome) suggestions (and having a little cry) and 24 hours later I'm still getting some EWCM... I almost wish I didn't know about the signs... Oh for the days when you just felt in the mood and did it! I'm on CD17... normally Ov on CD12/13. My acupuncturist was digging around last week and said she was working on Ov timing. Now the 2ww.... I think...? Very annoying.

Triplespin · 11/08/2014 10:02

Aww just - the joys of TTC. I totally know the feeling and then often with DH being knackered I go into a strop, which basically ruins the mood!

Have you not been using opks? Only temping? Maybe you should try once more to be on the safe side if temps are still low?

Will you be on the progesterone this time? I can't remember if you have come off it and what Coventry said.

Justonemoretime · 11/08/2014 10:41

Thanks Triple, it's a pain, isn't it. I've been trying to avoid temping/peeing on sticks etc. as I've been trying to avoid getting obsessed. It has worked really well.... Blush

TinyTear · 11/08/2014 12:31

Well this time that worked we actually didn't do it on the day my app said I ovulated as Mr TinyTear came home a bit tipsy from a work leaving do and I wasn't in the mood
But seems the day before or the day after did the trick...

Justonemoretime · 11/08/2014 13:36

Tiny, lol. It's always when you least expect it!
Triple, I meant to say, I'm on the progesterone from BFP not from day 21 as it was taking me more than 3 months to conceive. This is month 9....

longestlurkerever · 11/08/2014 13:46

Hello Everyone

Welcome Daisy but so sorry to hear your story. Sorry Cat that you are feeling low again. Please try not to make any rash decisions in the wake of a negative test. Wait and see how you feel in a few weeks. I agree that first cycle means nothing, but I feel for you.

Back from holiday and still feeling OK emotionally but am ill! Just a cold I think but also felt really, really sick yesterday - so much that I wondered if I might be pregnant. Didn't have any tests left so tried an OPK which was positive. Shouldn't be OVing now and thought I did a week or more ago but who knows really following mc and agnus castus?So cue panic and trying to get hold of proper pg test on a Sunday evening. Managed a cheapy and a digital that both came back negative and I think that must be the end of it as I have been very careful for 2 weeks now I am sure so if I was pg it wouldn't be really early days, but I can't help wondering what is making me feel so sick - maybe the combination of ov and agnus castus? Obviously would be a disaster if I was pregnant really as don't have a diagnosis yet but couldn't help being disappointed at the BFNs. Why are our bodies so keen to torture our minds eh?

Catlover2014 · 12/08/2014 06:37

Hi everyone, still waiting for AF for feeling much much brighter. I think the crinone just makes me very hormonal. Nice that's it's wearing off a bit now.

Longest I know exactly what you mean about wanting a BFP even when it isn't time. I hope you get one and a sticky bean soon.

Dreading work this morning but at least I have tomorrow off.

tammy when is ur next scan?

Waving hello to all you lovely ladies. Xxx

Catlover2014 · 12/08/2014 07:18

Doh ^ I mean tanny of course!

Triplespin · 12/08/2014 07:31

Hi everyone just heading in to work this morning after my holiday and now need to tell them about mc3 and that I need more time off for ERPC and general recovery. Dreading it! Wish me luck.

longestlurkerever · 12/08/2014 07:40

Good luck Triple. Hope it goes better than you fear.

Well now AF is here! Which is overall a good thing I suppose but wtf was that positive opk about? Do I have an L.P. of 2 days now, or can there be another explanation?

Appointment tomorrow! Mr Rai better be prepared for a grilling!

Catlover2014 · 12/08/2014 08:11

I hope they will be understanding Triple. Is ERPC on Friday? I will be thinking of you.

Longest oh frog's knickers to AF. Hopefully you'll get duffed next month and will have results back by then too.

XxX

longestlurkerever · 12/08/2014 08:34

Grin cat. You too!

bootles · 12/08/2014 08:43

Morning all

just and longest how annoying about confusing ovulation. Have heard opk not always reliable, and also that you can have a kind of false ovulation sometimes? longest grill Mr Rai about that too and come back and tell us. Yes to think there were days when i didnt even know what the signs of ov were!

cat afraid i have no experience of progesterone, but as its a hormone seems reasonable it would make you feel rubbish..glad you are feeling better today.

triple hope work are good to you. Am just on way to further scan now to check uterus all cleared out..back to work after. I hate work as its time away from DS, even though am only part time.

daisy and charlie hope you are doing ok x

TinyTear · 12/08/2014 08:46

Hello all

Good luck Triple, hope you have an understanding boss...

Longest, I still need to look for the book and we should meet up for lunch some day! Good luck tomorrow with Mr Rai! When he tells you go forth and multiply go for it, as that was the day I conceived my DD Grin

I have my counselling at lunchtime today, shall let you know how it went

Justonemoretime · 12/08/2014 08:49

Good Luck today, Triple, hope they are understanding.
Longest, it does seem to be the month for cyclical weirdness. Hope yours is a sign of your body gearing up to do something spectacular! Good luck with your apt with Mr Rai.
Cat, glad you're feeling a bit better. Feeling hormonal is horrid, isn't it?
Well, my body is behaving very strangely. Now on CD18, had masses of EWCM yesterday, dtd, this morning temp is still low. I'm normally text book regular... no idea what's going on?!

bootles · 12/08/2014 09:01

Also, I did something awful. Suddenly realised yesterday it was due date for no.3. Had had it in my head so long, even mentioned it on here a few days ago, then seem to have done some very efficient self preservation and FORGOT. Feel so guilty.

Then my friend from work (we were pregnant together until I wasn't) had her baby yesterday, which I am genuinely thrilled and excited about,but I always found birth of babies emotional even before all this started. Then, I stupidly watched 'long lost family' that awful programme with Davina Mcall where they reunite separated family members. I can't bear to think what agony women went through in the past when they were forced to give up their babies for adoption. I should have done all the chores I had to do instead - weeping mess. When the news came on I went to bed..that would have finished me off, so feel guilty too that I am avoiding world events...its just all too horrendous.

I seem to have found each mc harder to grieve for than the last..I think I try to suppress it and get on with things, so maybe its good to melt down every now and again. Do feel somewhat wrung out this morning though!

cloudjumper · 12/08/2014 09:02

triple Hope your work will be kind and understanding. Are you actually going in, or telling them over the phone? They really should not make this any more difficult for you...

longest I have heard very mixed things about agnus castus, making me think that it might well be what made you feel sick. Some people can react very strongly to it - after all, it interferes with your body in quite a profound way, so I'd be really careful with it.

just I very often get lots of ewcm in the week/days before ovulation, and then very little on the day it actually happens. Would you give temping/charting a go? I know what you mean about obsessing too much, but I've decided that rather than fight it, I'll embrace it Grin No point being in denial - I'm desperate, and I need to know what is happening when.

Well, I'm CD23/12DPO today, so AF should make an appearance in the next couple of days. I'm holding on to that glimmer of hope I might be pg - it is possible... Temps have started to dip, but keep hovering above the cover line... Hmph. I keep asking myself how I would feel if I was pg, and there is no joy or happiness whatsoever, just dread.
Got my next counselling session today, which is probably a good thing - I have been very up and down in the last few days, and really angry with DH for so many reasons, but afraid to tell him for fear that I might just lose it Confused

bootles · 12/08/2014 09:07

just have you managed to dtd some more to cover all the bases? Does sound like late ovulation..i think? Don't know about anyone else but my EWCM seems to stop as soon as ovulated. Maybe give up not poas (you are still monitoring everything anyway!) and get an opk..though that may not have the answers anyway. Oh isn't ttc just the most frustrating thing?!

bootles · 12/08/2014 09:14

cloudjumper i am linking jbrd (jay bird in my mind) with clouds and linking with the new name that way! Hope it becomes clear over next couple of days whats going on. When would you normally test? Know what you mean about the dread..if it happens again for me thats just how i will feel. Good you can off load all that anger with counsellor today, hope it helps.