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Recurrent miscarriage support - tests, treatment, trying again - thread 8

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Bakingtins · 01/11/2013 07:35

Welcome everyone, pull up a chair! A thread for anyone who has suffered multiple miscarriages and is in need of company, information, moral support, tea or sympathy.

Can I suggest we start page 1 with a recap of where we are all up to, because my fuddled head can't keep track?

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squizita · 09/12/2013 19:52

Ruggle congrats and best of luck!

I keep obsessing over my period (enough? Too clotty? Too dark? Etc) even though every post mc scan I've had a normal lining and I came on day 26 so 10+ days at least. Grr I am doolally I tell you!! Blush

butterfly86 · 09/12/2013 20:50

Squiz I obsessed over my period too I think mainly because my accupuncturist was always asking. I used to spot brown for days before it started but she sorted that out I was always diagnosing myself based on what happened each month you are not the only one who is doolally Grin

Iworrymyselftosleep · 10/12/2013 07:46

I should be 5+4 today. I'm nearly in tears cuddling DS cos my boobs don't hurt. Every mc starts with me noticing my boobs have stopped hurting. I'm still testing positive but I would cos obviously hcg wouldn't fall that quickly - I still feel bloody sick too and logically I do remember you don't have every symptom constantly but happy boobs is a bad sign. My first mc, I even posted on one of those happy confident threads with lots of exclamation marks about pg symptoms and retreated quietly when I realised...

All I can do is hope my consultant calls me back today. Secretary said it might be yesterday but she sounded so unsure that I knew it would be today at least. Didn't stop me keeping my phone next to me at the loudest volume...

I'm going to ask for bloods twice a week for a few weeks - I know it sounds excessive. I used to be a scientist, and I think I can cope better if I can see what's happening. ruggle I'm pretty much the opposite to you!

butterfly86 · 10/12/2013 08:08

Worry try not to stress too much about symptoms (says me who is obsessed) some mornings I've woken up and thought my boobs haven't felt sore anymore then wham a couple of hours later it's back they can come and go at this stage. I hope it's nothing to worry about and hopefully you get to speak to your consultant soon x

Bakingtins · 10/12/2013 08:17

Sending you (((HUGS))) worry I hope the sore boobs are back with a vengeance later. Hope your consultant is in touch today and can organise the bloods for you (or try GP or EPU?) You're probably a bit early for a scan but maybe you can get something in place for next week?

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Iworrymyselftosleep · 10/12/2013 18:56

baking you're good at this! EPU appointment booked for next Tuesday!

Iworrymyselftosleep · 10/12/2013 19:03

Sorry on phone so flicking back and forth butterfly I had hg with DS so no real idea of what I should be feeling - my experience of things going well involve eight months of steadily miserable vomiting and making DP eat take out in the car cos the smell of food was just torture (we can almost joke about the day he ate spring onion crisps - almost....). So between hg and mc, there must be a happy medium - I just have no idea what!

BigRedDragon · 10/12/2013 19:30

Hi,
I just wanted to pop in as this day last year was when I finally started to believe we would have a dc2. The previous year on this date I suffered my first miscarriage, 3 more later and I was an emotional wreck. I told dh I was going to stop obsessing, stop trying and going back on pill, that night our ds2 was conceived, and now I'm cuddling my 6 month old as I write . can't help but reflect on what ifs and the losses today. But also wanted to say that there is always hope, however dark it feels at times. Also whether it made a difference or not I don't know, but as I was so super aware of my body by that point I knew I was pregnant within days and started aspirin.

LateBloomer414 · 10/12/2013 20:38

Thanks BigRed, always nice to hear happy news on this thread. Happy to hear your news too Ruggle. Worry, hope you can stay calm. I've got another round of bloods due at St Mary's tomorrow. I am going got ask them if we can TTC this month- I can't bear the thought of not giving it a go. We are due for IVF to start around feb/march and I actually can't bear the thought of that debacle. So, fingers crossed we will get the ok.

squizita · 10/12/2013 20:54

Really worried. Although st Mary's said my lining is fine and not to worry ... And that you CAN'T tell from AF. My AF started lightly on Sunday, heavy bright red yesterday, dark today then NOTHING now. Weird. It's just it was 2days early and interwebz says period can show fertility. :/ blah. Will probs come back overnight.

LateBloomer414 · 11/12/2013 06:46

What's the result this morning Squiz? Hope all is ok...

Justonemoretime · 11/12/2013 07:00

Squiz, hope you're feeling better this morning? How recently was your most recent MC (sorry, I can't remember). I've always expected some AF weirdness in the months following an ERPC, BUT the other time I have had AF weirdness is when I have turned out to be PG... have you done a test? It sometimes happens that you can get a breakthrough bleed that's caused by the conflicting hormones in very early PG? Of maybe a vanishing twin? Maybe ask for a scan at your EPU if you can, to see if there is anything going on? I think you go to St Mary's, so you might be close to London? If so, I can highly recommend the walk in EPU at UCLH (EAG Wing, nearest tube is Euston Square) who would be able to scan you within a couple of hours and put your mind at rest? Sending you 'normal' vibes! x

Justonemoretime · 11/12/2013 07:01

*or - must proof read posts Blush

squizita · 11/12/2013 09:20

Late Nothing (not even mucus) but I still FEEL 'on'. When I was a teen I used to get caught out when I thought AF was over then it came back... maybe that's what it is.

Know it's AF due to dates and not a whiff of a BFP even on a digital stick. also BD this month not terribly successful due to bad back issues with DH and missed optimum day

Just ERPC waaaay back in April BUT was a partial molar so the HCG shook around for months. Hence I am expert at spotting even low HCG obsessively. The consultants did say it might make me irregular for up to a year in the same way as when you start your period or after coming off the pill: the body's forgotten and needs to get back into the swing of it. Frustrated because I thought I WAS back in the swing of it.
It wasn't breakthrough bleeding; it was AF.

Psychologically I think it would be very bad for me to go to an EPU with what I know is an AF problem. Dealing with non-specialists in a hospital might cause panics etc'. Whereas at the moment I'm just a bit worried.

Purplefrogshoe · 11/12/2013 09:28

squiz my AF has alway been like this, first day light, 2nd really heavy, 3 rd day nothing, light next 2 days, been like this since AF started at 16, consultant said this was fine

Justonemoretime · 11/12/2013 09:30

Fair enough. UCLH deal with all Gyne, not just Epu stuff. Worth noting ifyou ever do feel the need for a check up. Hope you feel better soon.

squizita · 11/12/2013 12:36

Purple Thanks. Yeah the docs have always said "You'd know if AF meant a drastic change" and TBH there was heavy flow then a break. Bet it will come back the moment I switch protection from a mattress to a pantliner.

Just Thanks - I emailed St Mary's to see whether they suggest coming in. Also rang my GP who as usual hasn't bothered ringing back grr so I will make a routine gynie appt if needed.

squizita · 11/12/2013 12:58

It's back. Purple looks like I'm AFing like a yoot. If I could have the skin and body of my yoot too, that would be all good Mother Nature, ta.

JBrd · 11/12/2013 13:41

Hi all, I have a question about Vitamin B6 - anyone ever experienced any side effects when taking the higher doses? I took 60 mg this morning (10mg in my folic acid tablet and 50mg of Vit B6 tablets), and then started to feel really yuck while driving to work. Got to work with really bad stomach cramps and was then sick Confused. Feeling a bit better now, but still bleurgh...
I don't think it's food poisoning, DH and I have been eating the same things since last night, and he is fine. I had a piece of toast with honey for breakfast this morning, but the toast was from the freezer, so I don't think that is the cause.

The thing is that I took 50mg of Vit B6 quite late last night, as I had forgotten to take it in the morning. I've not had any problems with it so far, and I have been taking it for a couple of weeks now, but I'm wondering if the short time between the doses was too much?

Anyone had any issues with B6? I've been doing some reading, and nausea and stomach cramps are indicated as side effects, so it all seems to fit...
It would be a shame if I had to stop taking it, because I believe that it contributed to pushing my cycle back to 27 days last month Confused

squizita · 11/12/2013 14:48

JBird Mr Aziz at St Mary's told me to take it only with food as it can be 'hard to digest' otherwise. Also to drink lots of water. I take mine as a complex as I read (albeit on tinterweb reviews) that also helps digestibility. I take whatever's in pregnacare + 1 bog standard B vitamin complex from Tesco + omega oil. The mixed vitamins with food still seems to work (yellow pee and 26-7 day cycle) but I find it easier on the stomach.

nearlyreadytopop · 11/12/2013 21:49

This thread has dropped of my list. I haven't had anything useful to post and rl has been super busy.
For the first time I can say I'm in a 2wwConfused . Positive ovulation stick on Monday. So how early can I test?
Do you all avoid alcohol during this time or carry on as normal? Ive always got pregnant unexpectedly in the past so these semi regular cycles and knowing when I ovulated is new to me.

squizita · 11/12/2013 21:58

nearly I always avoid alcohol but dont yet go scrutinising every food label. Most accidentally pregnant women probably carry on as normal so I doubt its that dangerous but given our circumstances caution is the reassuring option.

Lancashire21 · 13/12/2013 09:38

Dear all
Just a quick message to say I had my tests with Prof Bosen in Prof Q's clinic in Coventry on Monday. He was great and I would recommend if like me you are not prepared to hear ' it is just because you are old' . Even if it turns out that I don't have high NK cells and can't be treated, I will still be glad to have gone.

squizita · 13/12/2013 15:28

Lancashire great to hear it went so well. :)

Bakingtins · 13/12/2013 19:57

nearly hope you are not obsessing in the 2WW.

Lancashire glad it went well in Coventry. When do you get your results?

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