Hrt linked to dementia

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I thought it was supposed to prevent it.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/28/health/hrt-dementia-risk-wellness/index.html

Oh dear me, I did not deny that hormones don’t affect our mental state. You seem to be throughly confusing the brain as an organ with mental state.

This is problematic when attempting to discuss matters of biology.

Cancer is a natural process. Alzheimer’s is a natural process, Coronaey Artery Disease is a natural process…

Er, no those are not natural processes.

Men actually have a significant level of oestrogen, which they maintain throughout life. In fact some older men will have more than some post-menopausal women.

Very true, men can start to develop breast tissue if they have a large amount of body fat.

I said I was done with this @ReleasetheCrackHen but as you accused me of making things up, here is some evidence.

Married men and married women live, on average, two years longer than their unmarried counterparts. One reason for this longevity benefit is the influence of marital partners on healthy behaviors. Study after study shows that married people eat better and are less likely to smoke and drink excessively. All of these healthy behaviors help explain why married people tend to live longer. However, men married to women tend to see additional longevity benefits than women married to men, for several possible reasons.

For example, female spouses may be looking out for their male partners, reinforcing healthy behaviors and providing more opportunities for healthy choices. On the flip side, married men are less likely to attempt to influence their wives’ health behaviors.
Women tend to take the lead in promoting healthy behaviors, benefiting their husbands. Data suggests that men and women in same-gender relationships tend to engage in teamwork to mutually promote positive health behaviors.

They are a natural process.

They aren't 'created' by some artificial intervention.

They are disease processes, not natural processes, and are thought to be greatly influenced by lifestyle factors.

It's not anyone's view that it's a natural process. That's a fact. It's also a fact that malfunctioning is a natural process. That's what ageing amounts to, after all, a gradual process of accumulating malfunctions, and menopause is the ageing of the reproductive system in women. Death is also a natural process. Natural is not the same thing as good.

Do you have any evidence that women's bodies are optimized for lower levels of our reproductive hormones after menopause? I'd genuinely like to see it if you do.

I agree that natural is not the same thing as good but would you mind first defining what you mean by the phrase 'natural process'

Disease is natural. As natural as mosquitos, wasp stings, tsunamis, and humans liking sugar. You might as well claim that pain is unnatural. The natural fallacy is messing you all up very badly. Nature is not the Christian God. What is a naturalistic fallacy? The Ethics Centre Article

menopause is the ageing of the reproductive system in women
That's one way of characterising it but actually it's more of a built-in shutdown of the reproductive system so that we can move on to the next phase of our lives☝️😇

Disease is natural.

Perhaps you've not heard of preventable, or largely preventable disease?

You seem very angry and fired up @Pollyputhekettleon
Take a chill pill girl ☝️😇

@Pearlsaminga No, I don't play definition games. You understand exactly what I mean.

@Pearlsaminga Thanks terribly for your ever so genuine concern girl. I must go ask my 11 year old where all the cool girls find their emojis these days. If you can't cope with disagreeable adult women, I'm far too old to care.

Why do you think some diseases being partly or entirely preventable makes disease unnatural? Is the bacteria that causes cholera outside of nature? Is the pain from a broken bone supernatural? Natural is not the same thing as inevitable. Pain, suffering and death are part of life throughout the entire animal kingdom, including humans.

I said that those diseases - once thought the diseases of aging - are now viewed as largely preventable diseases. Not in all cases, but it is now known that lifestyle factors play into them far more than genes.

This is confusing two very different things.

Just because some diseases are more likely to occur because of lifestyle, doesn't mean they aren't 'natural' when they occur.

The biology or chemistry at a cellular level, of all disease, is completely natural (ie without human intervention to artificially promote that disease.)

No one would say that heart disease was 'unnatural'. You might argue some cases could be prevented by a healthier lifestyle but the actual process of furring up of the arteries or weakness in heart valves is natural.

No matter his age if a man has to be medically castrated they do not let him leave the hospital until he has had his hormones replaced, because the physical and psychological effects are so very detrimental. Menopause is the cessation of the ovaries production of oestrogen. Menopause is basically castration for women and we have been expected to suck it up, and told to tolerate godawful symptoms and health issues because they are “natural”.

While the average woman has what we refer to as “menopausal symptoms” like hot flushes, dry skin, libido issues, depression, brain fog, etc for approximately ten years, menopause itself is literally a full stop. You’re producing oestrogen, then you’re not. Once menopause has occurred, there is an almost immediate change in vascular tissues, the ability to increase bone density and skin changes. Our ability to heal from minor injuries diminishes significantly and our bodies age (or decline) rapidly because from an evolutionary viewpoint, we have outlived our fertility and reached our “Best Before Date”. Biologically, it’s the beginning of the end, and if taking supplemental oestrogen can keep my brain, my tissues, my organs and bones healthy for longer, I’m all for it. I fully intend to enjoy my “crone years” and want to be strong, healthy and with it for as long as possible.

Natural processes are those processes within the human body that are in essence, supposed to happen. The normal functioning that would happen without interference due to some factor outside the human body.

Cancer is not natural, but a disruption of our natural process of cell replacement within the body. This can be caused by infection with a virus, DNA damage due to overexposure to radiation - including the sun, radium, X-rays, chemically caused by overexposure to man’s polluting the environment with endocrine disrupters, breathing in pollutants including cigarette smoke and so on.

Alzheimer’s is similarly not natural as it is an as of yet not fully understood process which causes the brain to attack itself, causing brain damage.

Coronary Artery Disease is also not natural but caused mostly by our modern sedentary, high stress lifestyles and high fat diet - especially UPFs which are very much artificial food like substances that we eat.

Menopause is a natural process, when it goes the way it should which it does for the majority of women meaning they do not get distressing symptoms. Menopause is the adjustment of hormones to transition from fertility to nonfertility. It is only when the adjustment deviates from the natural process that we get unbalanced hormones and a difficult menopause (or andropause).

It is a problem that HRT is being marketed and sold as some sort of fountain of youth.

It IS for many women.

It prevents bone loss, heart disease, diabetes, colon cancer, pelvic prolapse and bladder issues.

That for many women is called Quality of Life.

Funny how no one ever criticises women for using antidepressants as if they are never marketed and 'sold' as the panacea for everything.

In other words, when we talk about “natural processes” in regards to the human body, we are always talking about natural physiological processes. Diseases are considered to be pathological processes, not natural physiological processes.

@ReleasetheCrackHen You clearly don't understand what natural means in a biological sense.

Only in your head are they defined this way.

please stop making your opinions facts.