Sleep is for the Weak Reunited

[gingerninja]

As we're officially not the weakest of other posters on the sleep boards anymore, it's time to move on. So, here is the new home for those of us that have been on SIFTW so long we can't bear to leave and who finally, can think about other stuff to talk about.

So my SIFTW sisters, this is where the kettle is always on and we can talk freely about sleep, no sleep or anything that takes our fancy.

hi all
amber i think slinging is a better idea tbh, its a bit tricky trying to manouvre a pushchair with hand and a feisty toddler with another!!!! hope lo settled back down again.

meggy stapling sounds like a good idea am contemplating it myself trouble is dd is still in the bedside cot and she just rolls over asking for boobie dont know whether to give up that a.m feed in the hope that she'll sleep later, or am i just kidding myself?.....how are you finding it cutting back?

cm i think you're a fab mum and definitely NOT a failure. dd sounds very cute, very boho!!!!

hope everyone else well and having better weather than us. roll on the sunshine

The BFing seems to have stabilised, he seems happy with morning and bedtime for now. We've been putting him to bed a little later in a (so far futile) attempt to encourage later waking, but one thing it does mean is that he's more tired at the bedtime feed, which means he's less likely to get distracted and wriggle away after two minutes.

Despite 8pm bedtime he woke about 6.15 today, drifted off for another 10 minutes or so then was up for the day. It's a pain because we can't go far in the buggy in the morning or he'll fall asleep, thus buggering up the lunchtime nap. Today he nearly nodded off over lunch, so I rushed him upstairs to put him down, but as I was changing him into his sleeping bag he promptly perked right up. So now he is happily playing by my feet, having been awake for 6 hours. Strange child

meg we're in the same boat with trying to keep him awake in buggy. drives me crazy!

Are you around EP and is everything ok with your DS? Just read on the breastfeeding in a swimming pool thread that your DS was on a drip or were you refering to a previous hospital visit? Hope you're all well

We've all had terrible gastroenteritis here. Hideous, wiped DD out for a week, I had it for a couple of day and now DH is coming down with it.

Hope you're all ok, sorry haven't more time to post.

hi Ginger and all of you

We've had a rough few days, but all seems OK now - DS was admitted to hospital with suspected meningitis but all tests clear so prob just a virus. All rather fast - I popped out to the GPs as he's been sick and had a bit of a rash, was sent straight to A&E for tests and ended up staying overnight with DS on a drip (ABs and fluids). Came to the conclusion that 2 essential skills for hospital stays are bfing (he'll get a bit of a shock when he goes back to 2 feeds a day) and singing 'Row row row your boat' off-key. Both stopped him ripping aforementioned drip out...

(btw he woke up at 3:30 hence me hiding out with the laptop until he goes to sleep).

EP, sounds scary -- glad it doesn't seem to be anything serious, and hope he's feeling better today. (And that he went back to sleep for you!) Agree that BF is invaluable in hospitals.

Also hope the Ginger household gets better soon!

hello ladies, sorry to gatecrash this thread, i used to lurk on SIFTW (thankyou, you saved my sanity on many an occasion). this is a message for ginger - i think you replied to one of my threads once that your LO sleeps on a double mattress, i was just after some advice. DS is 13mo and isn't that happy in his cot and isn't able to fall asleep by himself either, so we're thinking a double mattress on the floor might help as we could lay down by him at bedtime, the theory being eventually we can do GR easier than in the cot. I was just hoping to pick your brains on how it's worked for you with the mattress, good/bad points.
(I hope I've remembered right that it was you or I'll be very !)
again, sorry to gatecrash your thread, TIA.

hey EP, sorry to hear about your hospital visit - i'm glad it turned out not to be serious, but god how scary for you. sending hugs and sleepy vibes.

we have molars! it really sucks.

Sorry for the hasty responses, i hear snuffling

EP but pleased you're out and everything is ok. Sounds scary.

Amber, molars are pure hell.

Sparkly, matress is a runaway success. DD went in at about 12 months or thereabouts and I just jump in when she wakes, we've had a number of sleep throughs and i no longer have to lay with her to get her to sleep (if i don't want to, it's all happened naturally and i still need to sleep with her most nights at some point but the time that she sleeps on her own gets longer and longer.

thank you ginger, think we'll give it a go, cheers

sparkly, just re-reading your message you ask for pros and cons and I can honestly say for us there have been no cons.

The one thing I thought would be a problem was her getting out of bed when awake but she just sits up and shouts for me. Make sure the room is safe, ie no electrical cables hanging etc and put a gate up if you've got stairs but other than that I'm sure you'll get on fine. Come back and let me know how you get on.

hi all
EP for poor lo, that must have been so scary. So glad he's ok

Amber and Meg, we're battling with the pushchair snoozes too. so frustrating, cos she doesnt sleep as long, but wakes if i try to move her to the cot
Meg, I've tried later bedtimes too, but she's still up early. A friend looked horrified when i told her i'd been up since 5.40am. thing is, i've come to see that as a lie in from the 5am starts!!!! crazy.... I'm trying to cut down the bfing to that too, we're getting there!!

ginger hope youre all feeling better now. we had it a couple of weeks ago, it was bloody horrid. takes a while for these lo's to get back to full strength too, bless 'em

hope everyone else is well

oooh, amber we dont have molars yet, methinks it is not going to be fun

DS has been sicky since the weekend, actually he hasn't thrown up since Tuesday and seems fine but is really off his food. The only thing he wants to eat is fruit. It is generally getting harder to get him to eat a varied diet -- I do wonder if, having spent the first year of his life stressing about his sleeping, I'm doomed to spend the second year stressing abit his eating!

Anyway we have been putting him to bed at 8pm and it does seem to have helped the early mornings, this morning he didn't wake until 8am although he had been unsettled from 3-4am.

Well, he is still off his food (apart from fruit) and demanding boob during the day. I had put it down to the tummy bug (and/or general bloody-mindedness) but this evening I felt one of his molars coming through. He has had a few disturbed nights too so that would explain a lot.

Oh dear, molars are not fun.

No idea what's up with DS atm, we've had lots of very early mornings. His tummy is still unsettled from the ABs, so we've adjusted his diet to see if that will help.

oh and shhhhhh but...

BFP

feeling petrified mildly optimistic so far but v v early days...

Congrats! Very well done, we aren't stupid brave enough to try for no.2 yet...

don't know what BFP means, but congrats EP - very scary exciting!!

Megs, had exactly same experience with ds' two molars. off food for about 4-5 days except fruit, and bad bad nights.

It's Big Fat Positive.

Have found out today that one of the mums at my M&T group has chicken pox. Am crossing everything that DS doesn't come down with it -- we're going on holiday next week!

sorry, should have said up the duff

EP you're secret is safe with us. Many congratualtions. Will it be a Christmas baby? I'd really like to go for no 2 at the mo but with DH having a major relapse in health it's some time away.

Just to update you, his neurologist can't find anything physically wrong with him, but believes he's suffered some permanent damage somewhere. He's being refered to a neutrologist because it's suspected that it's related to some inner ear problem. He's taken the news badly and is very down and tearful. If it is inner ear damage, there is nothing they can do but hope the brain re-adjusts itself but it could take years.

ANyway, on a positive note. DD has slept through for a week. Tonight, we sang twinkle twinkle three times. I got up, she waved to me and I haven't heard a peep from her since. Amazing!

Congratulations EP . I always like to hear when other people are having babies (then I can heave a sigh of relief it's not me) only joking! .

about your DH Ginger I don't have any advice just lots of cyber support. But well done DD for her sleep througths

Got to go DS2 is looking for me, I think he wants some milk. Hello Meg and everyone else.

Sorry to hear your DH is down Ginger . Must be so difficult not knowing exactly what it is or when it will improve. Do vent on here or by email if you need to . Well done on your DD for sleeping through, though!

DS's sleep has NOT been good the past few nights - think he is still unsettled from being ill plus I guess changes in my milk from the pregnancy. Plus the 18mo growth spurt, of course. He's been waking several times a night and waking properly at about 5 or 6 am . He won't settle if I'm there, so after a few nights of shivering on the sofa at 2am waiting for him to go back to sleep I just decamp there with a pillow when he first wakes and leave DH to it . He actually went back to sleep this morning until nearly 10 and has had another nap, so I think he may be coming out of the other side ... we can hope!

According to my vague calculations, I'm due mid Jan. It wojuld be easier if I could remember when my last period was .