Durham / North East Meet Ups - 2012

[juneybean]

Hello hello! Here I am with good intentions to behave and show up to some meet ups since I utterly failed in 2011!

So we need ideas for daytime meets and of course we must not forget our night time meets

[b]Daytime Ideas[/b]
Beamish
Saltwell Park, Gateshead
The Giants Den, Team Valley
Botanic Gardens
Beach (in the summer of course, unless we want airborne children!)

Okay so ideas for January daytime, I think cake is definitely in order so I propose the one that's next to Ebony, the huge place, down some steps, uhh... Slug & Lettuce is it? CAKE!

January night time? Is this something we want to plan? I know we're always poor after Christmas!

have a gin. Or a glass of wine. It won't do any harm as a one off and a small amount at this stage.

Don't think about what might have happened. It'll just make you cross and you'll tense up. Go look at your babygros and think about what you have to look forward to. When I've needed to relax I've found it helpful to lie down and tense every muscle up from my toes all the way up to my ears and then relax them. That way you relax muscles you weren't even aware were tensed.

Good luck for tomorrow. x

Good luck VL. And I agree, have gin if you want it, not too much but enough to relax you.
(assuming your nil by mouth hasn't started?)

Am I being thick... what on earth do they mean they don't have any staff comfortable delivering breech isn't it just another presentation fgs?! (I've obviously been watching too much Call the Midwife where they didn't whinge about such things!)

Great birth story Indith!

No gin last night, but a bit of bubbly wine instead that dh took it upon himself to fetch me. Bless him, he's trying really hard! Slept with my bum up on pillows last night in the hope of gravity lifting it up from my pelvis a bit so they have a better chance of turning it, and will be stopping work every half an hour or so to invert myself. The cats find this process fascinating...

Very few midwives and drs do breech births now. They've been recommending cs for long enough that they don't have enough practice. I was hoping to win the lottery last night so we could head off to stay in London and find a hospital that deals with it...

Do you get a tummy tuck at the same time as a cs? Looking for a bright side!

Nil by mouth started at 7am.

juney during the 60s/70s midwifery was sidelined really and birth became very medical. Homebirth was no longer the norm and every happened in hospital. Because anything that was less common, such as breech, was now dealt with by Drs in a medical manner the skills to deal with them were pretty much lost. Midwives never saw those cases and were not trained in them. Then of course as time went on those in training didn't learn them because those teaching didn't have them. So basically a lot of places don't have staff who have done enough breech deliveries to be happy doing them so they still get shunted off for sections. It is gradually coming back though as midwifery becomes more prominant again.

Good luck Viking, hope today goes well.

Good luck for today Viking xx
Indith, I'm really enjoying your photos on facebook ... he looks so small and snuggly!

Facebook of course! Just had a look he is so beautiful

Just about to go in a meeting and prob won't be out til 1ish. Best of luck Viking, will keep my fingers crossed for you. Hope it goes to plan.

Can your face explode from too much inversion?

C Section on Monday. Pants. So not a hb then...

Oh no. Sorry it didn't work. Is there any chance that she could turn before then if you spend the weekend upside down or is she firmly wedged?

At least you can plan now. And you know what her birthday will be! Will you get your mum up for then or wait til you are out of hospital? Are you going to tell the outlaws?

Viking sorry it didn't work :(

As Spiggy said though at least you can plan now. You know you've done your best, it is just one of those things.

If you fancied a last ditch attempt/more advise then this doula spent last weekend at a spinning babies workshop so could have some ideas you've not tried.

They reckon it is highly unlikely to move on its own, since there is no space in there - it's measuring pretty big - and the placenta is very much in the way. She's mobile enough, though... I don't think she enjoyed the procedure!

They think I'll be out on Wednesday night, so Mum is coming up Tuesday night so she can drive me back on Wednesday. Otherwise I'd have to come up with a good excuse for refusing a lift from the in laws, in their smoke-filled stinky car, with fil's appalling, jerky, dangerous, old-man driving. They have already bought a car seat. We just told them about it, and they are already giving J grief about not calling them from the hospital earlier today to tell them. They are so not visiting me in hospital! Mind you, post-birth hormones gives me a good excuse for throwing them out when I want to try bf!

The people I saw there today were all very good though, and they answered my questions without making me feel dumb for asking. But honestly - with hips and boobs like mine, I was clearly built for childbirth. How the hell did I end up in the breech minority? I'm contacting god for a refund on those hips. I've comforted myself for YEARS telling myself they would make birth easy!

Having glass of bubbly and eating steak and chocolate tonight. J trying to cheer me up.

And I know it is not the end of the world and I am being very diva about this, but it is so far removed from what I expected! And it limits the number of kids i can safely have. We were planning 4.

Just because this one is breech and a CS doesn't mean the rest will be :)

Inlaws sound like a nightmare, at least that is the advantage of hospital, easier to keep them out!

They will insist of giving J a lift home after visiting hours each day, and make him feel bad. We have a rule as they are very toxic parents: I do not leave him alone with them. Ever. Poor boy.

I'll know what to look for in future pregnancies, and I won't place my faith in a midwife I do not trust! She actually said that she'd thought for a few weeks that it might be breech, but wasn't sure! If she'd referrred me at the time, turning would probably have worked! Not sure how reasonable I am being right now, so will decide whether to put in a complaint after the baby is here and I have calmed down. Right now it feels like negligence, but not sure if I am being unreasonable, so have not said anything official.

The current plan is to take this one as it comes, then push J's parents off a cliff before I get pregnant with the next one and inherit enough to pay for an independent mw!

Indith's right- it doesn't mean that future pregnancies will be section as well. You are entitled to feel fed up though. It is hard when reality is so different from what you hoped and planned for.

You wanted a daughter to take after you- she's starting pre-birth with knowing her own mind, getting comfy and not budging

Viking - sorry that the last appt wasn't what you expected, MW sounds very unsupportive! Agree, give that Doula a call, she is very nice, I have met her several times.

If it's any help my boss had a successful VBAC for no. 2

happier today and less negative about the whole thing. After all, people actually voluntarily opt for ELCS, so it can't be that bad! And I'll have a more visible/better excuse for doing no housework afterwards. And I did point out to J that I now have the moral high ground in every argument in perpetuity, since I will have been sliced open to bear his child...

Not so self-indulgently miserable today. Will get on with organising the house for afterwards, then I won't fret about it whilst I am away. List of chores for today: read the meters so we can change suppliers, do last year's tax return, do some actual work, book train tickets for brother's wedding in April so I can tell him I've done it and will go if possible (we're the only family attending so it is important to him), do shopping list for J for tomorrow, do chores list for J for tomorrow (I'm not doing any housework! What if it sets off labour?), deal with all the financial stuff I have been putting off for months.

Thank you for being supportive, and sorry for boring the pants off you/being self indulgent over what is not the end of the world, after all. Just not what I wanted.

Vl sorry to hear your births not going to go as you hoped but glad you're feeling happier today. Hope you're planning to spend the weekend relaxing and looking after yourself. Good luck for Monday, looking forward to hearing your news.

Don't forget to plan some relaxation into that productive weekend!

And you are right, some people choose sections, they are not that bad! My friend had her 3rd section in November. Number 1 child breech, number 2 child transverse. Number 3 was the right way round but after sections she didn't really fancy a VBAC!

Glad you are feeling better. Plan something lovely this weekend as next weekend you will be parents you'll never have a nice peaceful weekend again

Have you got a time or is it a case of turn up and wait?

3 days to go!!! I'm very excited- can you tell?

Call at 7am on Monday to make sure we've not been bumped, then in for 8am. Op scheduled for 12.

Housework planned for this weekend. There isn't much fun activity to be planned at this size!Eating a lot of chocolate though...

But so far today I have done the tax return I've been putting off, done some freelance work, and made lists of stuff for J to do.

oooh 12o'clock on 12/3/12. easy to remember not that I have to stop and think to work out my children's birthdays, oh no not me

spiggy the only way i remember the years is by the MN threads so long as i remembeer ds was a due dec06 i'm ok. always get him and dh muddled for tthe day though, darn them being 2 days apart!