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[BriansMum]

Hope this works, a shiny new thread girls - come on in .

Why am I watching an audience with Michael buble?

Gig, sorry you're in such pain, and what a bugger about baby being breech. Soulnds like LaG has given you some good advice though. Glad your dsc are there to amuse E, you can relax!!

Gig, your house trauma continues, let us know if they make another offer.,

Moving in a month, not got definite dates yet

Deb, great news on your move . LG, I would be tempted to go with the new offer as your current buyer sounds like a total flake!

Gig, DS2 was breech until v late in pg - I seem to recall being told this is v common in 2nd pgs as there is more room to move around but could be making that up! However, four of the mums in my NCT group had 2nd babies breech until the 11th hr and all turned and were delivered naturally (2 were VBACs like LG). Fingers crossed your DD will turn too . Sorry to hear you're in so much pain though - do you think they'll induce early if it carries on? Hope they are able to give you some reassurance this week and you're able to enjoy Christmas.

The boys and me have all got stinking colds today so we're hibernating. Went back to see GP today for my next set of pills, starting to feel a little more level-headed now, so hopefully they're working. Survived a weekend with the ILs so that's a good sign !

Sorry you and boys all poorly but pills must be doing some good with your mil to tolerate .

Thats good to hear breach can turn - tbh there isn't a lot I can do (apart from stuff lag suggested ) so will try and hope for best.

Dd being very good about having a somewhat sloth like mother- may wear off soon though

I would also google to see if acupuncture can be useful turn babies. I have a recollection that it might from chatting to my acupuncturist last year. Please don't ask me how it might work though . I would recommend my acupuncturist here for obstetric stuff if you were interested in acupuncture and if you could make it here with your hip etc.

I don't blame you at all for having the wobbles about surgery. I think women who don't like the idea of childbirth and think a c section is preferable are kidding themselves. Your reservations are very sensible IMO. Having said that though, a good section is preferable to a traumatic natural delivery.

New buyers have upped their offer to the level we thought we wanted to make it worth switching. I am a wreck wondering what to do next. I am trying very hard to exclude personal feelings of being utterly pissed off with buyer 1 and agent 1 because of how we have been treated and assess which buyer is likely to get the sale through first. The £££ difference between the two offers is inconsequential. It's more about trust and speed. If there was a smiley that combined this colour with this expression I would use it.

Stitching - glad you survived the PILs and you are starting to feel a bit better. Sorry about the colds. When does DH finish to give you a break.

Hi Deb! Glad you have a better home to move to.

Gah, I really need to catch up but have to bake some mince pies. Getting started so early, you'd think I'd be ready for Christmas!!!

Huge waves to you all - bit busy here with Christmas parties, baking, belated card writing, nursery carol concerts etc etc. Have also been organising getting the bathroom done too!

Will try and catch up properly before Sunday! Looking forward to more house buying updates from LaG. Gig, I hope the baby turns around - I have nothing helpful to add I'm afraid. Great news on the cheaper rental Deb and hellooooooo to Stitching and Mudwiggle.

House news: we have accepted new offer and told buyer 1 that the deal is off. So we are now gazumpers having been gazundered a few weeks ago. Hopefully you don't think we are being immoral? In a normal transaction we wouldn't consider it, but we feel our consciences are pretty clear given the back history.

Lolling in bed next to dd as dh out. Acupuncture a good idea and have appt booked for next week so could try then. My Pilates guy gonna try some stuff but issue is feeling up to going (was crippled by 5 minute walk today!).
The good news is had leg scan and no clot s but it's still agonising (better when do nothing but that's not so easy ). What did you do to cope as you had spd didn't you stitching?

On preparation front I have a load of wrapping and cooking to do. I may have to set up a table by sofa to cook as I love cooking but can't stand for too long . The sad news is I am not sure how I can cope with a long car trip to see in laws on boxing day (can't remember if said new car arrived and is v nice - the practicality and gadgets on it making up for unflash style of it. And managed to sell old one which is really lucky as thought Would have to wait).

Lag - any news on house? What happened to badger buyer 1 survey ?

LaG - I don't think you're being immoral at all. Your original buyers behaved terribly I think (in a way that is immoral imo) and what goes around comes around.

That's a shame re your boxing day trip Gig - what was the outcome of MIL on Christmas day btw?

X post Gig.

Survey was ok but a potential problem with drains that they were going to get a further survey on. Too late for that now though.

X post Leo. Thank-you. That's what we think too. Not nice knowing you are ruining someone's Christmas.

Agreed you are not immoral lag- badger buyers have had time and concession enough from you. If the others can exchange first then as Leo said karma is a bitch.

Mil going to bil who lives nearby and was quite happy to have her but mil moaning as sil family will be there (who know mil , are pleasant and as its Xmas hardly j reasonable for them to be there ). But mil never likes anyone else being there as likes to be centre of attention (did a lot of "I want to be alone "antics here a couple of years ago but didn't get far as both my dad and stepdad chatted to her so had no room for Moaning. plus I love cooking so really don't mind her putting her feet up).

We offered for her to stay but she was put off by our stairs (is fairly immobile ) and fact if she came would be for a couple of days as length of journey is such that can't go there and back in one day (4 hr approx round trip). That didn't stop her repeatedly suggesting (and being refused by dh ) coming up just for the day..

The next thing will be her moaning about me not going but I really couldnt give a shit what she thinks (sorry not to see bil//sil and kids but they will get to see dd and dss which is main point).

LaG - you haven't ruined their Christmas, if it is actually ruined they only have themselves to blame for being greedy, sneaky and flakey.

Glad you got the MIL sorted LaG!

I'm not happy with my mince pie pastry. Gah! I have got a lovely tiled bathroom though

Have nice recipe for pastry If Want it Leo. And agree re ruining Xmas - what about all the stress you have had?

25g icing sugar, 75g butter, grated peel/pith from one orange and 150g flour - whizz up this lot til crumbs then add onebeaten egg to bind (may need a little water). Makes about 12

I read that as "snaky and flaky" Leo! I don't envy your decision at all LG, but don't think you have been remotely immoral given the stunts they tried to pull . My friend who accepted an offer on her house last month from someone in rented is moving tomorrow , so it shows how much of a difference it can make when you reduce the chain to the smallest it can be.

Big wave to everyone else - watching the lovely John Barrowman on Buzzcocks so a bit distracted !

Thanks Gig. Have a batch in oven so will see how they come out. Not sure what's wrong with it, have used the recipe loads of times!!

Thanks all. I am feeling a bit yuck about it, but deep down I am glad not to be selling my house to buyer 1. It's all about karma! She has emailed us a couple of times this evening, initially offering to match new offer (she doesn't know the amount), then when we said we wouldn't negotiate she has accepted our decision. Given that the gazundering was done on the premise that she couldn't afford her original offer then it only proves that she has been messing us around.

Tomorrow morning we tell the agents ouch!

I do pate sucre for mince pie pastry. They are very buttery and short. I think I might have one now with a small port.

The flip side of telling the buyer is telling the agent - doesnt that count as an early Xmas present

Enjoy telling the agents LaG! Mince pies were ok - pastry not brilliant, but a delicious cranberry mincemeat more than compensated

You naughty lot! We are debating whether to tell agents face to face . I suspect buyer will be on phone first thing though and beat us to it.

You'll be up earlier than here LG, get in there !

Can't believe she upped her offer - she was definitely trying it on then, cheeky cow!

Hmm, yum to cranberry mincemeat!

Gig, forgot to say I didn't really do anything to manage my pain I'm afraid - just put up with it and felt sorry for myself . I vaguely recall doing acupuncture but can't honestly remember whether it made a difference! My SPD wasn't as bad with DS2 though, but he was a smaller baby so that might have helped. I still suffer with it now though which is crap . Not much longer and baby will be here .

Oh and LG, forgot to say dh doesn't finish til Friday unfortunately but he's been looking after the boys at night while I sleep in the spare room which is giving me more energy to cope with the boys during the day. Off to get their hair cut today!

earlier than her I meant!

Hope your nights in spare room helping stitching. Am also not doing much- acupuncture Does seem to reduce swelling but not pain. Tbh only taking it easy moderates that and am reluctant to take too much paracetamol as although meant to be safe, I am cautious and also not convinced it really does a lot re pain.

Lag am waiting for update on when agent finds out. Have new buyer given any indication on timetable for survey etc? It was other buyer who had survey wasn't it?

The buyer had inevitably forwarded the emails to the agent last night, so he was expecting my call. He sounded oddly accepting of the situation. Either he knows he is genuinely beaten, or he has one last trick up his sleeve...