Ongoing Low Carb Bootcamp Chat Thread

[BIWI]

Well done everyone who completed the Summer Bootcamp!

here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness if you want to continue adding to it

Obviously there are many of us who want to continue, either to lose more weight or just for general support to help with this WOE, so here is a brand new, shiny chat thread.

As for me, having slipped a lot a little when I was away, I'm firmly back on the wagon today.

And can I remind you, that if you haven't completed the survey we would be very grateful for your views/thoughts on how we can improve Bootcamp.

scarlet it's worth reading the links on the top of the broadsheet even if you don't fill it in. Start tomorrow.

MustTidyUp- you are right. I have eaten and drunk too much of the wrong stuff and now I am just having a tantrum about the fact that it has not ended well. The weight will go down again if I can get strict with things again I will just have to do this.

throws toys out of pram at unfairness of it all

Lewis there is no evidence to show that fat is bad for us. We have been fed a lie for the last 30 years or so. Did you read the link that I posted?

Hi all.. I've been away at a conference so I'm now trying to catch with everyone's stories. I've got to about page 3 - wow to us all for doing our absolutely utmost - truly some amazing achievements. Big thanks to Biwi and Willie for all their chivving (sp) and help.

Conferences are odd things...it's almost like a competition to see how many biscuits one can scoff in 2 days! I'm pleased to report that not a crumb passed these pearly whites but I did struggle with finding LC food (or more to the point, trying to avoid the carbs). It was loaded with it. At one point, I even had to scrape out the egg mayo in the sandwiches as that was all there was. I think they thought I was a bit eccentric

My weigh in before the conference was done another lb so in total I lost 6 lbs on BC- however, I started WOE a few weeks before and in total I have lost exactly a stone. The best part is that I'm determined to lose another 10 lbs and know that it will happen soon

One question - what's the fruit-eating recommendation now, i.e on a long term basis?

Hi, am delurking as have started low carbing again after a break of 2 years. Lost 2.5 stone on it before but am a real tortoise so it took 2 years to get there. Kind of lost motivation in the end as became a slave to the scales. When the numbers didn't move in the right direction it affected my mood. Anyway weight has crept up & have gained a stone. Trying to lose with 5:2 but my food choices on normal days weren't great. Also feeling generally unhealthy. So, started back on it again on monday with dh who doesn't need to lose any weight but wants to feel healthier. Have also ditched the scales and am only measuring my waist as that is my biggest problem.

I do have a question about avocados. Are they suitable for bootcamp stage?

millie - you can introduce berries now if you wish - just keep an eye on quantities though, as they can quickly become carby.

bunjies - Avocado is a funny one - carb counts vary enormously which must be to do with the variety - but I think they are fine for Bootcamp; best advice is probably not to go too mad. Half an avocado here and there should be fine

Morning everyone.

Two year old ds was up most of the night. Sweaty but cold. Wouldn't stop crying but couldn't tell us what was sore. Just seemed really angry. He eventually dropped off at about 3.30am. Back up at 7am.

I am going to have a lot of coffee today.

Breakfast was scrambled eggs with butter, coconut oil and parma ham.

Lunch will be sausages and salad.

Dinner will be a buffet at the pre-wedding soiree. Dh and I have packed a few of those Lidl pepperami type snacks in case the buffet is cabtastic.

Negroni - I can't have much dairy either. I also find that after a carby weekend, the weight gain doesn't hit all at once but rather over a few days. It should come off again.

Negroni - i can't eat too much dairy either. My dp someties buys me Lidl greek yog (as a 'treat' - yeah, thanks!) and i love it so much i can eat the entire 1000ml in 2 days. And put on 1lb. (not so much of a treat then)

lewisfan definitely watch that link. I have type II diabetes and all my blood results have improved massively in this woe, including my cholesterol. Interestingly low GI/GL never really worked for me, and having tried to read up on it a bit, I am not at all convinced by the science behind it!

BIWI's link to the long article about fat (above - page before) is worth reading too. I enjoyed that I suppose because it supported all my own views.

Thanks for the sympathy. Drama queen that I am, I am lapping it up. Today I am down a lb, so now just three pounds up from last Saturday. I am drinking a bulletproof coffee - well i just have it with coconut oil.

I feel a lot better today, cravings wise. All week I have been wanting to eat slices of buttery toast with peanut butter etc and jacket potatoes with baked beans and cheese- things i never usually want on this WOE, but thankfully this seems to have passed.

Avocados - I can totally imagine they have different carb counts. I usually get small ones that are easy to mash etc but the other day I bought a big one from the greengrocer's and the flesh was very fibrous like a pumpkin - am sure that was an evil carby one!

captainmummy you have written what I have started to suspect about myself - yes greek yogurt has been being my treat. I've cut it (and cheese) out the last couple of days and I feel like I'm losing weight properly again. I feel more like I've been maintaining for the last 2 or 3 weeks. I am going to have to actually go out and buy a set of scales and then I can test this out for real.

But - maintaining is good too! Once I've lost a bit more then I can definitely welcome the cheese and yogurt back in. I am more and more convinced by the things that article was saying - that since the 70s/80s we've been sold a pup about carbs/fat - I used to see carbs as neutral and necessary, nutritionally - now I see them as the problem. They put the weight on, then cause cravings so we eat even more! I'd like to think I will never go back to a way of eating that is carb-heavy.

Also, as a child I really struggled to eat carbs in any quantities. I used to eat the fillings out of sandwiches, didn't like chips or potatoes in most forms as found them stodgy ditto cake, did enjoy rice in small quantities and chocolate but found most carbs too bulky. I am sure my body just didn't want carbohydrates in large amounts but sadly i grew used to them. Oh and also didn't like milk as a drink either.

I can't imagine ever fancying a bullet proof coffee -coffee with butter in?

Meals for Weds:
B- bacon, 2 cherry tomato
L- salad with chopped black farmer sausage, mayo
D - kebab minus the pitta, salad

Yesterday:
B - bacon, fried egg, 2 cherry tomato
L - salad with corned beef
D- home made mousaka type thing with aubergine and leeks

Breakfast today was a pepperami and little bit of cheese, it was one of those mornings. We're going for curry tonight and I will drive I think rather than haivng a drink for a change as i really want another pound off. I love the feeling of being so in control, and knowing more or less exactly what I need to do to lose a lb a week. Am off to waitrose at lunchtime today in search of coconut oil -I might try that in a coffee...

couch do try it! It just tastes like a coconutty coffee. Also coconut oil is solid until over 20-something degrees so does not feel as odd putting a teaspoon of solid white coconut stuff in as opposed to a teaspoon of oily stuff. I just put in a flask and shake about 20 times that produces a frothy/foamy coffee. Also with butter... my brain has just got used to this. I also put it in from the fridge so only melts in the shaking process. I just see butter as cream that has been shaken a bit more, coffee and butter just a shake or 2 away from coffee and cream.

Or maybe I have just been brainwashed!

Thanks for the replies about avocados. Yes, the reason I asked is because of the differing carb counts. Anyway, I'll probably get some after the first 2 weeks are up as the fats are so good for you.

Also wanted to say how brilliant these threads are. Thanks BIWI et al

It is my pleasure!

Negroni - good way to look at it; butter is cream just with a bit more shaking! (and draining).

I am so not hungry today - breakfast was usual rooibos tea with coconut oil, lunch has been a few macadamia nuts and I'm having another rooibos with coconut oil - it really fills me up for ages.

Off to tesco for something for tea

I have a question about this woe and antibiotics. Can you be more susceptible to the side effects (tummy wise) when on this woe and has anyone found a way to side step the issue? Preferably without taking anything else. Feeling like I rattle atm with that many meds.

Berry alert! My raspberries have just started cropping.....

Newstart - I've been fine with antib's while LC. I just make sure I have something to eat - just something small if not up to a meal with whatever meds I need (unless specifically states on an empty tum).

I have noticed though that if I have too much fat within a meal... I get horrible tummy ache, so I am having to watch cheese, cream, oils, butters etc

Couch - I agree with the coffee & oil....

these abs are having a very erm, cleansing effect (tmi) working a treat though cos other then that am feeling 100% better then yesterday. Suppose i need to check what is in them other then the ab itself. I can have an issue with lactose (although have been better on this woe) so it might mean i have to cut the dairy down a tad. yes i know lactose is not great for this woe and I am considering negotiating only a 5 day course rather then taking the full 7days I was prescribed

nope no lactose, which is why i have these ones.

NSNS - glad you are feeling better

Prettybird - mine are too ! Just as well we can eat berries on bc Light!

....yes, but how many??!!