Ongoing Low Carb Bootcamp Chat Thread

[BIWI]

Well done everyone who completed the Summer Bootcamp!

here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness if you want to continue adding to it

Obviously there are many of us who want to continue, either to lose more weight or just for general support to help with this WOE, so here is a brand new, shiny chat thread.

As for me, having slipped a lot a little when I was away, I'm firmly back on the wagon today.

And can I remind you, that if you haven't completed the survey we would be very grateful for your views/thoughts on how we can improve Bootcamp.

Survey done x

I have also done the survey - looks like plans are afoot!

thanks - am wading my way through the reading

as an aside, will this prevent / help etc diabetes type - whichever one isn't insulin injections?

My dad's just been diagnosed and my grandfather also had insulin diabetes... I'm a little worried!

BIWI will you be sharing the results of the survey with us when its finished?

I enjoyed that N Y Times article, thanks

Lewis...as I understand it - the fact this woe is no/low sugar is the main diabetes protection.
My dad has just been dx as pre diabetic so I have been trying to talk him into low carb.

Too much processed meat today but I'm back to my own devices tomorrow.

B: Greek yoghurt and two slices of ham
S: pork scratchings
L: rump steak, gammon, baby back of ribs, mushrooms and watercress (yummy lunch out)
D: two sausages and a minuscule portion of carrots (dinner was bangers and mash so had to make the best of it) followed by a small bowl of strawberries and cream

B: cold sausage and 2 pastryless egg and cheese tartlets. Coffee with cream.
L: salad with boiled egg and lardons creamy dressing
D: chicken shish kebab with double salad and no pitta
S: pork scratchings
And I'm going to have a small white wine spritzer.

Still not weighing any different than a week ago. Is this normal or am I having too many creamy coffees?

how the bleddy hell am I meant to drink 5l water a day? I'll live on the loo!! (ignoring the fact that I can't BEAR water... fizzy or flat! - I think I'll have to buy water and fridge it :( )

Can you drink green tea or rooibos (red bush) tea or other herbal teas? That's another way of getting your H2O in.

I can't bear tea or coffee or hot drinks; they make me feel ill

I'll just have to drown myself!

I am quite surprised that it needs SO much water... are they SURE I need FIVE LITRES a day?! Really?! my poor cells will explode!

It helps with the ketosis/fat burning.

You could try cucumber water - people have commented that it is amazingly tasty.

Alternatively, get a sports water bottle and take lots of small sips over the day. You might not notice it as much.

I read somewhere the fat burning grinds to a halt if you don't drink lots of water. Which is a motivating thought! (and yes I do need to go to the loo more often now...)

I guess it's my fault for being 21st!

sorry - me again... are vegetables rationed? or rather, is the level of carb overall rationed?

Urgh today I feel like throwing in the towel. Since having carbs last Sat and Sunday I seem not to be able to get back on track. I am gaining weight - 4lbs up since last Sat- and just don't seem to be able to get back into ketosis. I feel peckish a lot of the time but have got back on the wagon but seem powerless to stop this weight gain.

All a bit depressing as since Tuesday have been back on low carbs with only the odd milky coffee or small lump of cheese, which makes me think I can only lose when on very low carbs, no dairy. Since Tuesday have gained another 1.5 lbs to add to the 2.5 I had gained since Saturday. The way I am eating now would really be pretty low carb for most people and the thought that this WOE only works when I am really strict is a bit gutting.

Sorry for the rant, it went on longer than I meant. For those of you just starting, this does really work as a way of losing weight without deprivation, so welcome! It just doesn't seem to be working for me at the moment and not sure how to sort it out. Stopping weighing myself for a bit might be a good idea!

Hi all, great to see all these success stories! I did Atkins about 7 years ago, people were at first v sceptical and hostile to it and work colleagues were incredulous that I kept cream in the fridge at work instead of milk. But... they stopped laughing when the weight dropped off me and I lost 2 stone! Eventually 5 of us formed a support group at work and took turns to make lunch. I got down to 9 stone 3 and was so happy! But eventually all the propaganda about how fat was bad for you etc got to me and I went back to my old ways. And put the weight back on. And more! It's so much easier to do this with support ( and I have some great recipes...), So onwards and upwards!!

Lewis- if you stick to vegetables that are under 3g carbs per 100g you should not have to ration them.

negroni sorry you are struggling. Keep a food diary? Post it here? What's your worst time of day? For me it's the evening and I love to watch telly / mumsnet an drink wine and snack. So I do Zumba twice a week and eat dinner later the evenings I'm not out so no time for grazing. Can you find a way to fill your difficult time? Or is it picking?
(Hope you don't think I'm teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, although new to low carb I'm a seasoned (and successful!) loser)

Are you joining us then scarlett?

is there any evidence that the long term fat content of the diet doesn't do damage? (can't get my head round it)!

I've been dieting for the past 10 years... I can't get past the "Atkins is dangerous / Fat is Bad / Ketosis is Not Good" stuff ... I "get" low GI - how is this diet different to that?

Yes would love to! The broadsheet looks a bit intimidating tho....

Also is there a place where people post recipes?

Musttidyup- thanks. I think that before I was well into the way of eating and so did not feel very hungry most of the time, did not crave anything and so long as I did not tempt myself by say sitting in a cake shop I was fine.

Now I do not feel fine, I feel like having nuts or wine or berries and cream. And i think it is making me gain weight which is infuriating as it isn't as if I am drinking a bottle of wine or eating cream cakes or having fish and chips which would be a lot more fun!

I hear you negroni. It is not fair. This is not just something those of us that struggle with weight say, it is true. Some people have to be so very careful or pile on the pounds.
But, bottom line for me is that I am happy when I am not so fat and less so when heavier. So it's worth the sacrifice. Sometimes you have to remind yourself of that.
I need rules. Do you? If so why don't you go back to boot camp for a fortnight? Be really strict. You know after a few days you will be ok.

Lewis I had a blood test last Nov which showed my cholesterol level as 4.2. I started boot camp on 7th Jan and have continued to low carb ever since. At the beginning of June I had another blood test and my cholesterol was bang on 4, a drop of 0.2. That is after six months of eating butter, cream, mayo, etc.